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tsig
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Message 209 of 306 (214314)
06-04-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Faith
06-03-2005 10:39 AM


Belief in Action
Actually, as I suggested earlier on this topic, the whole idea of belief as necessary to salvation is pretty exclusively a Biblical concept. I don't know that Mohammed even made any statements that are a matter of belief. The Koran is mostly a set of instructions to obey, not propositions to believe -- "believe in the Last Day" is the only exhortation to belief that I can think of, and it's not an exhortation to take somebody at his word, just a general exhortation to believe in a concept.
If you don't belive in Allah there's a pretty nasty hell waiting for you where your skin gets replaced to burn again, And Allah knows best.
"There is no God but Allah and Muhammud is his Phophet" are two very specific belief claims made by the Qu'ran. Muslims go you Christians one better as they make these beliefs publicly five times a day.

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tsig
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Message 211 of 306 (214346)
06-04-2005 9:47 PM
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06-04-2005 9:10 PM


Re: Belief in Action
Fact remains, there is no belief in anything that happened to Mohammed or concerning Mohammed that is an article of belief, such as his turning water into wine, or healing the sick or raising the dead or the like. The belief you are talking about is the kind of belief in an abstraction, which is what I was contrasting with the belief in Jesus that we are called to.
Jesus PROVED by his life and his actions that He is God -- this is what we are asked to believe, what He said and did.
Mohammed just TELLS you Allah is God and Mohammed is his prophet and didn't do a thing to prove any of it.
How about conquering all the major states around them. Allah proved to be a better god than the OT one.
Muhammed split the moon.

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tsig
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Message 216 of 306 (214398)
06-05-2005 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by Faith
06-04-2005 10:40 PM


Re: Belief in Action
topic drift, no repy

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