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Is Christ cruel? (For member Schrafinator)

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crashfrog

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Message 58 of 306 (213296)
06-01-2005 9:49 PM

Reply to: Message 56 by J. Davis
06-01-2005 9:44 PM

But Shraff, there are things you don't know nor can know but that you must simply believe.

Are there? If there were or there weren't, how would you know?

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crashfrog

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Message 191 of 306 (214187)
06-04-2005 1:18 PM

Reply to: Message 190 by Faith
06-04-2005 1:13 PM

Murder is done against innocents, these are guilty.

So, it's impossible to commit murder, because every man is a sinner?

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crashfrog

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Message 193 of 306 (214193)
06-04-2005 1:29 PM

Reply to: Message 192 by Faith
06-04-2005 1:28 PM

God judges the heart but we have no right to judge the heart.

Isn't that exactly what you're doing, though? Don't you have to judge the hearts of those people, to know that God was right to destroy them?

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crashfrog

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Message 208 of 306 (214308)
06-04-2005 8:49 PM

Reply to: Message 201 by Faith
06-04-2005 7:21 PM

No, I simply know that God is right whatever he does, I don't judge anybody's heart.

Circular reasoning. Whether or not God is right no matter what he does is the question under discussion. You can hardly support the affirmative position with a proof that starts by assuming that to be the case.

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