riVeRraT responds to me:
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In other words, they're a bunch of lying Christians out to forcibly convert Jews.
Great, now they are liars. Whats next?
Dunno. Hopefully, you won't put your faith in them.
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Don't insult my intelligence, riVeRraT. We all know what you meant.
NO, you think you know what I meant. What I meant is what I said, something you may not be familiar with.
Then say it, already! Don't keep us in suspense! If you didn't mean what I thought meant, what did you actually mean? Rephrase your statement in a different way such that it means the same thing but does not use the same words.
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It is not the power I have over you, it is the exact opposite.
Please explain how I have power over you. I don't know you. Up until recently, you didn't even put any information in your profile. What possible sort of power do I have over you?
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I made it very clear to you, SEVERAL times that I do not condem people to hell
That's not what you said when you apologize for condemning me to hell.
Let's take a look at what you have said, shall we?
riVeRraT says gay people are sinning:
Message 212 of "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
I think its all to clear in the bible that having gay sex is against God.
Also the bible speaks that we should stay as far away from this kind of thing (not support it).
How could it be any clearer?
You just tried to explain away the clearly obvious, why would you do that?
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
Could that be any more clearer, or are you going to try and re-interpret the bible for us.
King James version,
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
I am trying to see ones reasoning for not thinking being Gay is against God.
Message 186 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread, in response to comments about gay dolphins:
I'm not sure but, I believe that other species on this planet will not have a chance to go to heaven like us. So I wouldn't compare us to them.
Message 137 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
So being Gay goes directly against the will of God, and all the teachings of the Bible.
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So being that it is against the law of nature, and against Gods will, I would say its a bad idea.
riVeRraT judges others:
Message 188 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
Thats imature thinking.
Message 137 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
So being Gay goes directly against the will of God, and all the teachings of the Bible.
Being Gay is also hypocritical.
So being that it is against the law of nature, and against Gods will, I would say its a bad idea.
Message 217 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
Dude get help fast.
Message 28 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread:
Why is it that you get so angry when someone trys to share the truth with you? Is it that much of a problem for you?
Message 29 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread:
I also never assumed anything, but by your defensive reaction, I wonder.
Message 40 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread:
But too bad because they are my beliefs and not yours, no need to get angry.
Message 88 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread:
Anyway I'm sure rhain is going to write me a book tonight, so I better go study the Bible.
Message 149 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread:
I hope reality smacks you in the face. Because I think your awesome.
I pray for it, seriously.
Message 152 of the "Take the Atheist Challenge!!!" thread (and I love this one because this is your entire post):
You little tiny nothing, lmao. I can't believe you just tried to explain the start of the universe. Like you could.
Don't feel bad, I am nothing with you.
Message 157 of the "Religion in Government" thread:
You won't reveal yourself, because you are afraid I might get to the bottom of something. You are afraid of the truth? How would I know, you won't tell me. Babble.
Enough of that thread.
Message 157 of the "Religion in Government" thread:
They should state their real reason for not wanting to have anything to do with God, rather than making up lies.
I think that's enough.
You've done nothing but judge people from the moment you got here.
Oh, what the hell. One last one:
Message 166 of the "Homosexuality and the bible: Round 2 - morality." thread:
For you, "if" he does exsist, then you will find out
Telling somebody he's going to go to hell isn't exactly a non-judgemental act.
Message 142 of the "Religion in Government" thread:
Acting like a wise guy will not get you into the gates of heaven either.
Alas, riVeRraT, you can
claim that you don't condemn people to hell, but your words betray you. You do it all the time.
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I only judge them if it is in a good way.
But according to your own book, you are in absolutely no position to judge. The moment you do, you are condemned to the same judgement. No, the Bible does not say that you will be examined to see if you made the same mistake and if you didn't then you will receive no punishment. It says that if you judge someone, that same judgement happens to you. Condemn someone to hell for whatever sin and you will also go to hell whether you committed that sin or not.
You are not allowed to judge anythig, riVeRraT. That is god's job and he allows nobody to take it from him.
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And as I responded to you before, if the Bible cannot be trusted to be an accurate reflection of god, how can we trust any of it? If this verse isn't true, what gives us confidence that any other verse is?
Listen, your the one who doesn't believe the bible, not me.
Irrelevant. You're the one who asked where in the Bible it says that god creates evil. You were shown where it does and your response boiled down to, "Well, god didn't actually say that."
If you're going to cherrypick which verses of the Bible you're going to believe, perhaps you would be kind enough to give us this expurgated version you're using. Otherwise, we'll simply use the text that currently exists.
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If the bible is not right, then stop using it to prove things rhain, plain and simple.
(*chuckle*)
You really don't get it, do you? I'm not the one who keeps bringing up the Bible.
You are. Therefore, it is perfectly logical to show you where the Bible disagrees with you. If you don't like your own text being used against you, perhaps you should dump it.
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Isiah 45:7 doesn not mean that he makes evil just for the sake of making evil.
Yes, it does, but that's irrelevant. Why god creates evil is irrelevant to the question of whether or not god creates evil.
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If someone was murdering someone you love, and God came down and did evil to them, by killing the perpetrator on the spot. would you consider this good or evil?
Oh, heaven help me. The ends justifies the means? That just compounds the evil! The ends
never justify the means.
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Funny how you think I have a direct line to God though, was it something I said?
Yep. See above. Remember the one you apologized to me for?
Message 142 of the "Religion in Government" thread:
Acting like a wise guy will not get you into the gates of heaven either.
So you tell me. You apologized for your act of speaking for god. What does that say of you thinking you can speak for god?
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Do you feel threatened?
You're the one who keeps threatening me. You tell me.
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Incorrect. Pascal's Wager is the (false) philosophical claim that one should believe in god (specifically, the Catholic god). The idea is that if there is no god, then those who believe have lost nothing even though they gain nothing, either. But if there is a god, those who don't believe lose everything as they will be condemned to hell. Therefore, from a supposedly "pure mathematical" stance, one should believe in god since it results in no loss for infinite gain.
No rhain, you cannot use mathematics to solve this one. Its not binary.
Nice try, riVeRraT, but that's
my point to
you. You are the one who keeps on saying that if people don't follow your religious theology, we're going to hell.
That boils down to Pascal's Wager which is false. What do you think I meant when I said "false"? Is that the word of someone who agrees with something or the word of someone who disagrees?
Indeed, Pascal was trying to make a mathematical argument about belief in god. He was in error.
Now, how does "He was in error" mean that I think he was right?
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This will be part of your demise, your binary way of thinking is going to let you down in a big way one day, I know this.
BZZZZT!
Pascal's Wager. I'm so sorry, riVeRraT. Johnny, tell him what parting gifts he has!
Well, Bob, riVeRraT has won himself a lifetime of anguish in someone else's hell! Yes, that's right. After spending all of his life fighting against Satan and worshipping the Christian god, riVeRraT gets a reward of going straight to Hades for his hubris. He'll be sentenced to solve a series of puzzles for which the instructions can be read in many ways. Every attempt to glean more information will be met with "Since it would just be a waste of my time to tell you, I won't." Of course, every proposed solution will conflict with something in the contradictory instructions. This being for his continued insistence that those around him are unworthy of explanations.
But, he won't get hungry because he'll have an afterlife-time supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco Treat.
You didn't really think that the god that truly exists was the Christian one, did you?
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IF we communicate 10,000 words to each other and you or I forget one, it doesn't make one or the other invalid.
It isn't just one, riVeRraT. Nearly two dozen that I in only a half-hearted effort to collect have culled alone. This isn't a single instance of you misspeaking yourself. This is a consistent, repetitive behaviour of yours. Anybody who disagrees with your religious philosophy is a sinner doomed to hell.
Rrhain
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