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Uncreated Creator Argument

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Taz
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Message 15 of 80 (504241)
03-25-2009 3:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by DD2014
03-24-2009 5:46 AM

This argument basically boils down to:
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The universe was created by god.
God just exists.
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Take occam's razor and slash away all the unnecessary parts.
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The universe -| was created by god.
God |- just exists.
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And voila we have...
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The universe just exists.
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Taz
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Message 20 of 80 (504303)
03-26-2009 4:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Phat
03-26-2009 10:53 AM

Re: The source of wisdom and logic
Phat writes:
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Who invented logic?
Socrates
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Does the inventor benefit from being the source of the logic?
Apparently not.
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Taz
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03-30-2009 4:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Phat
03-30-2009 1:53 PM

Re: The source of wisdom and logic
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The point i am getting at is the fact that we humans, by attempting to theorize a universe without a Creator, in effect become the source of the explanation for something that occurred before we were even around to begin with!!
In other news, the pope is catholic.
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