Since God did not require sacrifices to atone for sins, Jesus could not be an atonement sacrifice. The only real atonement for sin seems to be for us to request forgiveness from the one we have sinned against and make restitution. As we forgive those who trespass against us...
I contend that the death of Jesus was not an atonement sacrifice to pay for the sins of humanity.
In Isaiah and Jeremiah God says he did not and still didn't require sacrifices.
Purpledawn:
I contend you are not even Bible literate.
EvC member Brian is a staunch atheist and he is a Bible scholar. Here is a short concise excerpt that he wrote explaining what the message of the Bible is.
Please note that Brian is not saying he agrees with it or even rendering an opinion - he is just communicating what the Bible claims/says:
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EvC Forum: Message of the Bible
From the last paragraph in the post:
EvC member Brian:
"The message of the bible is:
God created the universe and everything in it, it was all good and God was pleased with it. One of God’s creations, man, spoiled this golden age by disobeying the one rule that God had given to them, they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. As a result, the bond between man and God had been broken, the trust was taken away, God then banished mankind from the garden that He had created for them. However, all is not lost. God provided a way for Man to reconcile himself with God. He sent his only begotten Son to suffer for mankind, to suffer and die on the cross so that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
That is the message of the Bible."
I am a staunch theist and I completely agree with Brian's statement.
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