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Author Topic:   Am I the only one who believes in God?
1.61803
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Message 17 of 44 (89035)
02-27-2004 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Phat
02-27-2004 5:18 AM


Re: Gods Character
phatboy writes:
God created Lucifer BEFORE Lucifer chose to rebel.
Hi phatboy , According to what I understand of Angels they are non corporal entities of pure intellect.
http//CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Angels
It has been debated whether or not Lucifer was created already having made the choice to challange God as an equal. This is because it is believed that Angels transcend time. There is no past or present or future in regards to Supernatural beings like angels. So it stands to reason that at his very creation he "rebelled". as you say. Which brings up a interesting point if angels are pure intellect and God is the truth and right path how could such a creature of astounding wisdom choose the wrong path? This has all gotten batted around throughout the ages in the Vatican Im sure. And to all you Agnostics and Atheist rolling your eyes, I am not assuming any of this is fact.
*and for the record I as well believe there is a God.
[This message has been edited by 1.61803, 02-27-2004]

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1.61803
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Message 29 of 44 (89562)
03-01-2004 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Catalyst
02-29-2004 7:39 PM


Great post Catalyst.
I think that the creation story of the Garden of Eden represents mans awakening of conciousness. (This is strictly my own view.) The concept of evil does not exist for animals. IMO. Sometime in human evolution man became concious of good and evil. Free will to do what one wishes is a two edge sword we are free to decide but must act according to what our current "morality " deems is Good. Or be judged as evil. The line between good and evil can be blurred according to what culture and social norms are judging. For example.. at one time it was acceptable to have many wives..or at one time having a 13 or 14 year old wife was acceptable.. or in some parts of Africa cutting the clitoris of young females is just fine. You say its Evil..and I say its ok. Who is right? Disease is evil, but some disease leads to cures. War is evil, but some wars lead to advances in technology and medicine. The list is endless. So did God make evil? No I believe man decided to lable things. Just my opinion.

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1.61803
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Message 36 of 44 (90933)
03-07-2004 10:53 AM
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03-07-2004 10:02 AM


Re: Gods Character
Phat, I am not 100% sure but I think Percy was using sarcasm in regards to god's sex.

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