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Coragyps
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Message 101 of 152 (34591)
03-17-2003 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by nator
03-15-2003 9:19 AM


I have wasted my time with this duscussion, haven't I?
Schraf, in light of post 100, I think we can answer that with a rousing affirmative.

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Coragyps
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Message 135 of 152 (34937)
03-21-2003 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by drummachine
03-21-2003 9:33 PM


In Olduvai Gorge.

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Coragyps
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Message 141 of 152 (34973)
03-22-2003 6:57 PM
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03-22-2003 6:45 PM


How is that evolution when all you have are bones of horses? They still look like horses.
They're 18 inches tall, with three or four toes on their feet and browsing-style teeth, and they look "like horses" to you? You aren't looking very closely, I think. Or even looking at all?
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Coragyps
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Message 146 of 152 (35001)
03-23-2003 9:52 AM
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03-22-2003 9:47 PM


Drum, you might also want to look at
http://muextension.missouri.edu/...agguides/ansci/g02742.htm,
or Google up some other hits on "cannon bone" or "splints" and "horse." Modern horses have these two little skinny bones, the 2nd and 4th metacarpals, alongside the main bone above the hoof. These bones taper off to nothing 2/3 of the way down this cannon bone (third metacarpal) - they don't connect to anything. As a horse ages, ligament between them and the cannon bone turns to bone and fuses them together - older horses don't have splint bones.
Contrast this with fossil horses which had three functional toes. Remember that approximate age at burial of a fossil can be determined by tooth wear - like the expression "don't look a gift horse in the mouth". Why do you think our modern horses have these little bones which appear to serve no purpose other than to cause terribly sore feet? Is that due to The Fall, or is it a little more parsimonious to think that it's because Equus had three-toed ancestors?

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Coragyps
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Message 148 of 152 (35082)
03-24-2003 10:21 AM
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03-24-2003 8:21 AM


Oops!
Oh, to be absolutely clear, the splint bones actually do articulate with the knee joint, then taper down to nothing 3/4 of the length of the cannon bone.
Thanks - that's what I meant to say...

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