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mike the wiz
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Message 45 of 451 (152535)
10-24-2004 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by jar
10-24-2004 11:24 AM


Re: Kudos to all
There's so much disagreement concerning the definition of a Christian.
For me - it's lost as to it's first meaning. As in - people will generalize too much concerning the term. I suppose Buz defined it pretty well.
Neverhteless, I usually say that it is;
A. Belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and saviour of us.
B. Follower of Christ's teachings.
That is how I would define one I suppose, but then there might be other things - baptism in the Holy Spirit etc.. But you wouldn't find that in the dictionary as obviously an objective source isn't going to say such a thing - or certainly a secularist would have the assumption that there is no Spirit. So it might become an irrelevancy concerning the definition used by most secularist people, - in that a secularist might define one as just a believer - yet a believer might say that the baptism is necessary - anyhow/where/whatsoever - I am so tired of the whole thing, and I am not baptised in the Holy SPirit as far as I know - so am I a christian? Depends on who's defining it. And so - let Christ decide if I am.
So - am I a Christian? I don't know - and don't care anymore.
All I want to know is if my name is written in the book of life - and you can put me in the category you want.
So "christian" is an often used/mis-used term. For example - one might say that Hitler was a christian but not mike. Ho hum - and who cares! It's not like a christian is a special person anyway - no category will save me - only Christ will - I am going to claim Messianic Jewdom - cos my ancestors might have been Jewish.

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mike the wiz
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Message 47 of 451 (152750)
10-25-2004 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
10-24-2004 9:24 PM


Buzbaba
When I received Jesus the Christ as my saviour as a child I felt nothing physically, but simply took God at his word that I was, by calling upon him for salvation, now his child and a Christian by faith in his promise. As I grew in the Christian experience via prayer, church attendance and study of the Bible, especially the NT, my faith grew stronger and firmer that I I was truly a Christian and thus baptized by his Spirit We Christians are never admonished to be baptized by the HS, but to be filled by that Holy Spirit. Thus I believe in ONE baptism when one receives Christ and becomes a Christian and MANY fillings and many DEGREES to which one may be filled by that Spirit. Some have a little and others have a lot, depending on how devout, obedient and active in prayer, study, etc, but all who have his Spirit via receiving Christ as saviour and lord, regardless of how full of the spirit they are, nevertheless, STILL A CHRISTIAN.
Thanks for that insight of wisdom Buz. You have spoken complete wisdom here, as indeed - why would God answer our prayers and grow us if we are not his? I think my experiences are similar to yours - although, I kind of always believed in Christ, as far as I can remember - but got serious about it about five years ago.
I suppose I mentioned those things to Jar - as I thought you must have had a Holy Spirit experience as a baptism, and were defining such an event as a definition of Christian, and so - I didn't want to offend you by saying "I am a Christian" - when I infact haven't had a physical experience of this nature.
But further goes your wisdom - because when Christ asked Peter - "who do you say I am?" - Pter couldn't have answered unless the Spirit of God revealed it to him. Likewise - the man on the cross - whom Christ said tp; "today - you will be with me in paradise" - was he having an Holy Spirit experience? I trow not, yet he was saved - and was the comforter given?
So when you say;
Thus I believe in ONE baptism when one receives Christ and becomes a Christian and MANY fillings and many DEGREES to which one may be filled by that Spirit. Some have a little and others have a lot, depending on how devout, obedient and active in prayer, study, etc
Then I know this is correct.

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mike the wiz
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Message 49 of 451 (152916)
10-25-2004 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
10-25-2004 9:44 PM


Re: Buzbaba
Hi Mike. I sensed from your post that you needed some clarification. I believe the Holy Spirit was prompting me to clarify as it seemed that my post had left you a bit despondent and discouraged. Satan is the accuser of the brethren who discourages and brings doubt.
Wow - this is true B. Infact, I am glad you offered that post now because I admitt a lil doubt on my part - but only a lil, I promise.
. Meet with likeminded Christians at least once a week in public assembly which would include Sabbath or Sunday school.
I've got to admitt - I lack the above I suppose. I spend a lot of time around doubters or neutralists and so I suppose their negativity might rub off on me.
Thanks for the precise response!

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mike the wiz
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Message 51 of 451 (153057)
10-26-2004 12:26 PM
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10-26-2004 12:23 AM


Re: Buzbaba
Likewise.
I am glad if I was a tool of God.

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mike the wiz
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Message 53 of 451 (153060)
10-26-2004 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Dan Carroll
10-26-2004 12:35 PM


Dan cannot contain himself any longer
I absolutely KNEW you would respond to that post, you naughty lil Danbaba.
I've always thought of you as a stool.

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