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Tangle
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Message 263 of 451 (765726)
08-05-2015 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 262 by Phat
08-05-2015 2:47 AM


Re: God is NOT a product of my imagination
Phat writes:
What convinced me was that the feeling was just as strong the next morning
Having worked in mental hospitals for a while I can tell you that people's minds can generate all manner of strong and convincing feelings that are quite delusionary and often permanent.
But suppose this feeling is real, why would God choose you? And more importantly why not me?
If believing in God is the only way to get into this heaven thing, isn't it rather unfair of him to pick some non-believers - like you and Faith - but not others. Why not pick us all? Why is he leaving people out? Does he have favourites or is he tossing his famous dice?
And, if he's barging into people's minds like this, what happened to your precious free will?
Can you see that there's all sorts of problems with this notion of being selectively saved?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 283 of 451 (767535)
08-30-2015 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Straightshot
08-30-2015 9:18 AM


Re: still trying to define what Christianity is.
Hey Straightshot, you appear to be simply preaching - and in several forii.
Quoting great chunks of biblical bollox does not represent an argument and doesn't get read. Please pack it in. It only impresses the choir and then only by its tedium.
If you want to preach, go to church. If you want to discuss, keep your quotes short and relevant to the argument. It would be great if you could bring more here than just the bible, we've all got one.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 302 of 451 (775339)
12-31-2015 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Bob Bobber
12-31-2015 11:29 AM


Re: Its Not What You Do. Its Who He Is
Bob B writes:
God’s justification is absolutely free, but it was certainly not cheap, it came at tremendous cost. Apart from God’s grace, the justification Paul’s been telling us about would be totally impossible, but then, apart from the price the son of God paid to make it possible, God’s grace could not offer it.
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God’s justification is absolutely free, but it was certainly not cheap, it came at tremendous cost. Apart from God’s grace, the justification Paul’s been telling us about would be totally impossible, but then, apart from the price the son of God paid to make it possible, God’s grace could not offer it.
A Ransom For All, page 1
God’s justification is absolutely free, but it was certainly not cheap, it came at tremendous cost. Apart from God’s grace, the justification Paul’s been telling us about would be totally impossible, but then, apart from the price the son of God paid to make it possible, God’s grace could not offer it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDt-2_9JNY
Etc etc etc

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 304 of 451 (775341)
12-31-2015 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by Bob Bobber
12-31-2015 12:19 PM


Re: Its Not What You Do. Its Who He Is
Bob B writes:
But would you go and study Curt Crist? Curt knows Bob Bobber uses his reasonings. Those hearing this message of Paul, might believe this good news and become the instantaneous recipients of a new identity by being placed into Jesus Christ, the one who reconciled them to God?
Are you only here to proselytise and use other people's material? If so please stop. We're not interested in it. If you want to stay here, start using your own, original words. Don't copy and paste and don't think we won't notice.
I assume this is impossible for you because you have to do what your organisation tells you. If so, don't waste your time, go knock on someone else's door.
If you are able to talk freely, then welcome, we'd like to hear your own thoughts.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 309 of 451 (775534)
01-02-2016 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by ringo
01-02-2016 10:52 AM


Re: Its Not What You Do. Its Who He Is
ringo writes:
Bob Bobber writes:
God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again.
Who was it that put us up for sale in the first place?
Anything as flowery as that, is a copy and paste job from a million JW sermons and blogs
This search found dozens
God purchased the human race out of sins dominion, never to be returned to the market place of sin again. - Google Search

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 314 of 451 (776508)
01-14-2016 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 311 by John 10:10
01-14-2016 3:04 PM


Re: Is Christianity the one and only true religion?
John writes:
WOW! Not only was the right question asked, the right answer was given!
Yeh, wow.
If someone unequivocally dies and then unequivocally comes back to life in modern circumstances with good supporting evidence, we've got a few things to consider.
2,000 year old hearsay reports of an absurdity is an utter irrelevance.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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