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Buzsaw

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Message 21 of 191 (367392)
12-01-2006 10:18 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by dogrelata
11-30-2006 2:15 PM

Soul = Non Physical Properties of Humans

Hi again, Dogrelata. Your thread raises some interesting and thought provoking questions. For what it's worth relative to your OP, Genesis 2:2 says (ASV) "And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

There is such a wide gap between the most intelligent animals and mankind that it appears that mankind is unique to the rest of life forms. Genesis also has intelligent mankind ruling over the animal kingdom which we observe to be the case. Imo, the implication to what we observe is that humans have something lacking in animals.

Someone asked if God and his son Jesus have souls. My answer to that is that the Holy Spirit is the essence of the soul of both God and Jesus. I see the soul and the spirit of humans as synonomous. It involves the psyche of man or that part of humans that is not physical. Thus at death there are no properties of the soul/spirit of a deceased person capable of destruction so far as is observable.

I'm not aware of any attempt by evolutionists to address this as to how the psyche/soul/spirit of humans in whom we observe an extremely high amount of (abe: complex intelligence) compared to the rest of life came to exist within the being of humankind. We're not talking physical touchable matter here which can be analyzed in laboratory of test tubes, et al, but a complex non physical spiritual/soulish psyche dimension which humans posess.

Imo, intelligent design better explains this higher soulish aspect observed in humans than random and natural processes.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Message 31 of 191 (367481)
12-02-2006 4:02 PM

Reply to: Message 25 by dogrelata
12-02-2006 9:44 AM

Re: Soul = Non Physical Properties of Humans

dogrelata writes:

As I alluded to in an earlier post, and indeed recently on another thread, recent developments in animal research is starting to bring into question the extent to which humans are unique in terms of self-awareness, abstract thought and even language capabilities. In the interests of balanced argument, I should emphasise the phrase ”bring into question’, because this research is far from conclusive. However, and this is somewhat hypothetical at the moment, if our previous observations prove unreliable, and humans do not possess anything that cannot also be found in (at least some) other animal species, would you feel obliged to reappraise your understanding of what a soul means to you?

1. Human intelligence so far exceeds that of animals that humans, as per Biblical Genesis, totally dominate over all animals, the animals, to a great extent being the useful beasts of burden, food, clothes, et al, for the service of mankind.

2. Mankind is the unique species which has the intelligent capablility of creating advancement in technology, motivation, education et al, whereas other than environmental adjustments, all animals pretty much remain static throughout history relative to this phenomena.

3. No animal has ever trained it's pet person to do anything but cowtow to it's (abe: irristable) whims.

dogrelata writes:

There is no evidence that the ”non physical’ aspects of human existence that you allude to arise out of anything other than that existence, and are consequently entirely dependant on it. I think if you want to make this case, it has to be as a matter of faith rather than reasoned argument.

That nobody has observed the demise of the soulish non- physical unique properties of humans, imo, lends credence to the possibility of the body being nothing but the physical embodiment of a metaphysical living soul.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Message 37 of 191 (367574)
12-03-2006 3:34 PM

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12-03-2006 1:57 PM

Re: Soul = Non Physical Properties of Humans

larni writes:

So to be able to accept one unscientific notion, another one has to be dreamed up?

Are you implying that the alleged random and natural processes are unscientific regarding the phyche which is observed to exist in humans?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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