Why did God forgive our sins?

There is a presupposition here. If there is no God, then there is no moral law within. If there is no moral law within, where then do these notions of disgust or cruelty come from? There is a sense of justice that is innate to man, and indeed, we all tacitly make appeals to that everyday.Perhaps it is not that God does not exist, or if He does that He creates such injustices. Rather it could be that it is we who create the unnecessary hardships when trying to define God and compartmentalize Him in to a neat, little package. Perhaps it is humans who have erected a false god from the real one.Maybe your condemnation is really against the God of the Bible, and not God itself.

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis

Forgive me for psychoanalyzing the situation here, but you seem like someone genuinely angered by the concept of the Judeo-Christian God. To me, this bespeaks of something that happened to you perhaps when you are younger.Perhaps you grew up believing the Bible, and when you grew older, you became more and more disenchanted and dejected. Because if you think about it, people that despise the notion of the Judeo-Christian ethic obviously would only do so because they feel hurt by it. Perhaps they felt duped, lied to, and like a giant facade was revealed.Not believing in God alone, shoulould not rationally illicit such hostility, and indeed, could easily be seen as evidence either to the contrary, or evidence of cognitive dissonance.You ask very important questions, questions that have been hashed over a million times in seminaries and homes all over the world. You address the problem of evil, singularly the most devastating argument to all theology. These are honest and open, and I appreciate them.But you might find, however, that crushing others beliefs, just because you had a personal problem with it, unnecessary. You are, of course, entitled to your opinions, but I wonder why such hostility? Can you shed some light on this? Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo

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“I know where I am and who I am. I'm on the brink of disillusionment, on the eve of bitter sweet. I'm perpetually one step away from either collapse or rebirth. I am exactly where I need to be. Either way I go towards rebirth, for a total collapse often brings a rebirth." -Andrew Jaramillo

Double postEdited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : No reason given.

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see what I just did there? I forgave Nemesis. I didn't ask for anything back, I just forgave him. Isn't that cool? shame your god can't do that!

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Yeah, I guess you have me convinced... Sometimes people repress these things, and aren't consciously aware of the their own psychological state. Did you feel duped and angry as if people had intentionally mislead you about something so serious? This is a serious question. I only ask because I've met a lot of people who felt that way. They masked some of their pain by lashing out in anger. I'm not saying that this is what you are necessarily doing, I'm just examining the possibility.

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Because if you think about it, people that despise the notion of the Judeo-Christian ethic obviously would only do so because they feel hurt by it.

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There is a central difference here. Nazi's existed, and you claim that God does not. If God doesn't exist then surely you can't be upset with that which does not exist. That would be irrational. Who is the Emperor? Well, then I apologize if it seemed hostile to me. I'm just noticing a trend, as this is not an isolated incident. The delivery of said critical deconstruction usually gives away the intent. Far be it from me to belabor the obvious, but there are a lot of people that get their jollies by making others feel inferior. If this is not you, then let it roll off your back like water on a duck's feathers. I don't have much of a worldview to begin with that it might be threatened in the first place. It is not a mystery that some people take it hard, whether they can admit it to themselves or not. This isn't a bad thing, its just an observation. What is bad, in my estimation, is trying to bring everyone down with you because you had a bad experience. I think that's more than just a little mean-spirited. There just seems to be a general hostility in you. If I am mistaken, then I apologize. But I am just making observations. You seem to be fascinated with the Judo-Christian faith in an unhealthy way. For a non-believer I find this fascination to be a little disturbing. When I see Richard Dawkins, I don't see a man with a healthy fascination. I see a man obsessed about things he claims doesn't even exist in the first place. The amount of time the man spends on, well, nothing, is astonishing.Common sense would then dictate that he feels particularly threatened by it, and has a need in his mind to conquer these inner demons. For somebody who is a self-described rationalist and pragmatist, I see nothing either rational or practical about it. I see it as neurotic. Why is that?

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“I know where I am and who I am. I'm on the brink of disillusionment, on the eve of bitter sweet. I'm perpetually one step away from either collapse or rebirth. I am exactly where I need to be. Either way I go towards rebirth, for a total collapse often brings a rebirth." -Andrew Jaramillo