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Why did God forgive our sins?

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Message 214 of 479 (492124)
12-28-2008 1:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 213 by caldron68
12-28-2008 12:48 PM

Re: Re sinless
Did Gandhi go to Heaven or hell? Under the Christian belief, he went to hell. Ted Bundy is in Heaven and Gandhi went to hell? Rational or irrational, you decide.
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Neither, totally asinine.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Message 216 of 479 (492137)
12-28-2008 3:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 215 by caldron68
12-28-2008 3:24 PM

Re: Re sinless
The whole idea that a person who is a serial killer could be saved simply by professing Jesus whereas a truly good man who doesn't accpet Jesus is condemned. The whole idea of Heaven & Hell is asinine.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Message 274 of 479 (492409)
12-30-2008 11:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 271 by John 10:10
12-30-2008 8:44 PM

The evidence that Jesus left behind that skeptics and unbelievers will never understand nor accept started ocurring on Pentecost 10 days after Jesus ascended into heaven to sit at the right hand of God the Father as Lord (Acts 2:33-36). Pentecost has been ocurring now for 2000 years to those who repent according to Acts 2:38 and honor Jesus as Lord, "and the Lord has been adding to their number day by day those who are being saved" (Acts 2:47).
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Hearsay. I believe what Huntard was asking was for physical evidence.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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12-31-2008 5:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 283 by John 10:10
12-31-2008 9:35 AM

Yes, there are many religious deceptions, Islam being one of many. But the true and living God is explained by the writer of Heb 1:1-3,
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But where is the evidence that what he is saying is true and not just another batch of lies. You can't use the Bible to prove itself.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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12-31-2008 7:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 296 by John 10:10
12-31-2008 7:19 PM

But where is the evidence that what he is saying is true and not just another batch of lies. You can't use the Bible to prove itself.
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2 Peter 1:19-21
19 So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.
20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
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Wrong! You can use to the Bible to prove itself. The Bible has proven itself over and over again by the prophetic word that has been spoken and fulfilled from Genesis to Revelation. As Peter has said, "You do well to pay attention."
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This is still hearsay not evidence. I could say the same thing about the Illiad, that it proves that Zeus controlled humans in the Trojan War. The same type of hearsay evidence, with the same lack of corroboration
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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01-01-2009 2:07 PM 		Reply to: Message 298 by John 10:10
12-31-2008 10:02 PM

That is the point I am making, where is the evidence to support the Bible?
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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