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Author Topic:   Why did God forgive our sins?
Agobot
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Message 176 of 479 (491881)
12-23-2008 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by ICANT
12-23-2008 11:44 AM


Re: Re sinless
ICANT writes:
Actually He created a system in which He allowed man to choose how much joy or misery there would be.
But why did God create such a flawed Adam that would choose to do stupid things like eating from the forbidden tree? When my car breaks down, does the fault lie with the car or with the designers of the car? Even if Adam had free will, why was he created so stupid and unintelligent as to do silly things? You are indirectly blaming God, as Adam was allegedly a COMPLETE creation of God. And what does my child have to do with the sins of Adam? Following the same path of logic, shouldn't you ICANT and your relatives be punished for what the 9/11 terrorists did to the WTC? When is God going to snap out of his 6000-year anger?

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Agobot
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Message 188 of 479 (491947)
12-24-2008 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by ICANT
12-24-2008 1:40 PM


Re: Re sinless
ICANT writes:
Yes, many will not be able. In fact all those who will not receive Jesus Christ as their personal saviour will not be allowed in heaven.
But that does not limit the number that will receive Jesus and go to heaven.
I think heaven would be devoid of people as we are all sinners, but let's keep this aside.
How would heaven feel if you didn't find all of your relatives there? How would you feel in heaven if you knew your father or other loved ones must have gone to hell?

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Agobot
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Message 192 of 479 (491985)
12-25-2008 5:56 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by ICANT
12-24-2008 11:28 PM


Re: Re sinless
Agobot writes:
How would heaven feel if you didn't find all of your relatives there?
ICANT writes:
Worse than the lake of fire.
But worse than that is The Great White Throne Judgment. Where all the lost will be judged. I will see everyone that I have talked to in my lifetime. Even those I never mentioned Christ too. There will be many in that day that will point a finger at me and say why didn't you tell me about Jesus and His saving power. There will be those who will say why didn't you bug me about being saved just one more time. The line will be endless and my pain will be great. I will see my friends and family members who never trusted Christ for salvation cast into the lake of fire.
That will be a terrible day for me.
That is why God will wipe away all the tears from my eyes.
In other words God has to blot out all the bad memories, or heaven would be a place of misery.
This doesn't sound right. If that were the case, i'd rather burn in hell with all my loved ones.
BTW how does the bible explain the obvious paradox that we were created by god at some point, but since then we become immortal and timeless(though we also tend to equate infinities to integers)?
Edited by Agobot, : No reason given.

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