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NosyNed
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Message 63 of 309 (159514)
11-15-2004 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by pink sasquatch
11-15-2004 12:19 AM


Zack backwards view
It would appear he is hinting that anal intercourse is a harm of homosexuality. It seems he is somewhat naive.

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NosyNed
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Message 283 of 309 (162796)
11-23-2004 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Itachi Uchiha
11-23-2004 10:07 PM


by the rules
There are independent rules of logic which are agreed to before they are applied. The reasons for them can be articulated and examined.
When they are applied they produce unique results. This is not true of all forms of reasoning.
In general when there are disagreements it is because of different assessments of the inputs rather than the logical steps.
That said, logic of this type of rigor is not what is used when arriving at many scientific conclusions. It may only support part of it.

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Message 286 of 309 (162799)
11-23-2004 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by AdminJazzlover
11-23-2004 10:12 PM


Re: Soon Closing
Probably right since we are badly off topic it seems. I don't think you should close it though untill it has reached the 300 mark.
It seems we could spin off a logic thread though.

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Message 303 of 309 (163253)
11-25-2004 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by Silent H
11-25-2004 7:00 PM


Synonymous
Perhaps you can explain this to me then, since Rrhain refuses to answer. What is the reason that marriages and civil unions cannot be made synonymous under law? All it would take is a piece of legislation (perhaps inside the one creating CUs) saying that they are synonymous under law and legislation effecting one effects the other equally.
Up to now I thought I understood and agreed with your position Holmes. Suddenly it has gotten a bit more complex than I think is needed.
I thought you were saying:
Remove all references to marriage in the secular legal realm. Change all such usages to "civil union". Allow for same sex civil unions. Let the churchs perform, define and authorize "marriages" utterly separately from any reference to legal matters.
Then you have handled the traditional hang ups on the word, allow churchs complete freedom to do as they please with no reason to be afraid of being forced into anything they don't agree with.
You put everyone on the same legal grounds with no, I would think, constitutional issues.
Why risk there being any chance of the two things (marriage and union) being able to diverge in anyway. (There will be pressure to have that happen I'm sure.)

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