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DrJones*
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Message 111 of 256 (458705)
03-01-2008 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Buzsaw
03-01-2008 5:34 PM


Re: Does Established Evidence Exist?
I cited the fact that all cultures throughout human history have been religious whether primitive or civilized.
No you asserted that.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 119 of 256 (458725)
03-01-2008 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Cold Foreign Object
03-01-2008 6:04 PM


Re: Does Established Evidence Exist?
Do I need to post the reference?
Please do. I would very much like to see the scientific research Darwin did to establish the fact that all cultures throughout human history have been religous. Can you provide me with a the exact number of culures that Darwin studied? it of course goes without saying that failure to provide this number = inability to refute.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 127 of 256 (458746)
03-01-2008 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Cold Foreign Object
03-01-2008 8:22 PM


Re: Does Established Evidence Exist?
On the other hand a belief in all-pervading spiritual agencies seems to be universal
So Darwin didn't do any sort of study on various cultures and their religions/superstitions or lack thereof. He did not establish that all cultures developed religions/superstitions as a fact. It looks like you refuted your previous claim.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 130 of 256 (458749)
03-01-2008 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Cold Foreign Object
03-01-2008 8:54 PM


Re: Does Established Evidence Exist?
Nonsensical evo babbling.
your rage filled response = inability to refute.
To summarize:
1. Buz claimed that it was a fact that all culture throguh history had religions/superstitions.
2. I asked him to provide support for this claim.
3. You claimed that Darwin had himself established this fact and in support you offered the quote:
On the other hand a belief in all-pervading spiritual agencies seems to be universal
This quote oviously shows that Darwin was not establishing a fact but offering an opinion, your failure to recognize this = evidence that your Odinsense has been removed from you.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 183 of 256 (458861)
03-02-2008 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Buzsaw
03-02-2008 9:25 AM


Re: Does Established Evidence Exist?
And your rebuttal to the assertion is?
What is there to rebut? You said something was a fact but offered no support. Even if what you claimed, (all cultures have religion/superstitions), was true it does not provide evidence for the existence of the supernatural. As has been pointed out, many cultures have blamed diseases on bad juju and the truth is that they're caused by natural means.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 206 of 256 (459118)
03-04-2008 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Buzsaw
03-03-2008 10:27 PM


Re: All Cultures Religious]
Doc I addressed you here
Yes once again a post full of assertions but no evidence. But whether or not you're wrong about all cultures being religious is irrelevant. As has been pointed out to you repeatedly people succumbing to superstititon does not make the supernatural real. What's more beivable? some sort of supernatural realm undetectable by science and possesing attributes unique to each person "experiencing" it or people making shit up cause they don't understand and/or are scared by the world? If you can't understand this I'm afraid I can't help you.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Joined: 08-19-2004
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Message 214 of 256 (459180)
03-04-2008 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Buzsaw
03-04-2008 12:45 PM


Re: All Cultures Religious]
Whether you call it superstition, religion or whatever the point is that all cultures from the simplest to the most sophisticated have had it deeply rooted into the culture.
Great you've shown that all culture create stories to explain things that they fear and/or don't understand
For the umpteenth time, my point is that all cultures which observe the wonders around them have had a religious bent due to the belief in a realm of intelligence above that of humanity.
And for the umpteenth time my point is: so what? All cultures have thought that disease was caused by bad juju, that doesn't make it so, it doesn't even support the possibility that bad juju might be the cause of disease. Waht it shows is that people make shit up when confronted by stuff they don't understand.

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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