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Author Topic:   That certain kind of Christian
nwr
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Message 42 of 62 (445548)
01-02-2008 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Taz
01-02-2008 9:30 PM


That's not really a free will issue. What you describe is a case of action under duress, and those are not the circumstances where you are expected to be able to choose freely.

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Message 56 of 62 (445595)
01-03-2008 12:46 AM
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01-03-2008 12:29 AM


God gave us free will, ...
The idea of "free will" is also much discussed outside of religious contexts. There is an extensive literature in philosophy.
In philosophical discussions, free will is often considered as equivalent to moral responsibility. However, morally responsible action is not required when under external coercion (or under duress).

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Message 61 of 62 (445672)
01-03-2008 11:28 AM
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01-03-2008 11:04 AM


I'm not forgetting that. Nevertheless, as I said in Message 42, action under duress is not normally considered relevant to the free will question.

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