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Message 74 of 78 (815596)
07-21-2017 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Minnemooseus
12-21-2003 3:08 AM


Moose writes:
The theme of "theistic evolutionist" has been coming up in other topics, including "What is a Creationist". I thought about starting a "What is a Theistic Evolutionist?" topic, but thought it be better that I give this one a bump.
I'm sure there's a nice, precise definition of "Theistic Evolutionist" somewhere.
1) What I suspect it is, is an evolutionist who believes God had a (substantial?) hand in guiding the paths that evolution has taken.
2) Another definition might be - An evolutionist who believes that God was ultimately behind it all, but did not actively guide the evolutionary pathways.
Or somewhere in between these two.
I consider myself a cosmological creationist. God created the material and allowed nature to take its course.
Even here on earth, it was foreknown what humans would be and how they would grow and decide their fate. God planned Jesus before humans were even created.(or evolved)

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 77 of 78 (820251)
09-18-2017 11:18 AM


The Links Still Work!
Moose, in topic starter writes:
I found this link at Yahoo Clubs: Darwin and Jesus Can Get Along:
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/
Within that site is the authors "Essay in Favor of Theistic Evolution"
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html
Is much more also - Looks to be a real nice site.
I tested the links and they still work! Interesting site.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

  
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Message 78 of 78 (820252)
09-18-2017 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by RAZD
07-21-2017 2:23 PM


The arrogance and the ignorance
RAZD writes:
Curiously I think it is the height of narcissistic conceit for anyone to think they know god/s mind -- you would need the mind of a god to know ... and so, perhaps, the purpose is to become the next god/s to create the next universe ... and it may not be us that achieve this.
Is it arrogant to speculate?
ye shall be as gods....

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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