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ringo
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Message 136 of 301 (348347)
09-12-2006 10:46 AM
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09-12-2006 10:34 AM


robinrohan writes:
... this politically correct version of Christianity just bores me no end.
If you look closely in the upper right-hand corner of your browser, there's a little "X" that will relieve your boredom.

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robinrohan
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Message 137 of 301 (348353)
09-12-2006 11:02 AM
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09-12-2006 10:46 AM


If you look closely in the upper right-hand corner of your browser, there's a little "X" that will relieve your boredom
I prefer to attack the sources of boredom rather than ignore them.
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iano
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Message 138 of 301 (348373)
09-12-2006 12:00 PM
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09-12-2006 11:02 AM


I prefer to attack the sources of boredom rather than ignore them
Is nihilism interesting?

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robinrohan
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Message 139 of 301 (348385)
09-12-2006 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by iano
09-12-2006 12:00 PM


Is nihilism interesting?
Yes, in that it has the savor of reality.

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iano
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Message 140 of 301 (348389)
09-12-2006 12:40 PM
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09-12-2006 12:28 PM


Yes, in that it has the savor of reality.
So which do you find interesting: the map (nihilism) or the territory it plots out (reality)?
I assume it must be the map, for the territory so plotted seems only to offer boredom.
And more on topic: does your attraction to Christ (in so far as you are attracted to him) lie in a reading that sees him as non PC, anti-establishment, counter-culture, revolutionary

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robinrohan
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Message 141 of 301 (348419)
09-12-2006 1:48 PM
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09-12-2006 12:40 PM


I assume it must be the map, for the territory so plotted seems only to offer boredom.
Parts of reality are very interesting.
does your attraction to Christ (in so far as you are attracted to him) lie in a reading that sees him as non PC, anti-establishment, counter-culture, revolutionary
I find many of Christ's sayings attractive in a literary sense. His "anti-establishment" side doesn't interest me.

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Brian
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Message 142 of 301 (348442)
09-12-2006 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by robinrohan
09-12-2006 10:34 AM


Uh, no,
So why does it bother you so much if you aren't a Christian? Surely it is no big deal if it doesn't affect your life?
I mean, I am an atheist and I couldnt care less how people choose to define their faith. However, I do get a chuckle at the Christians fighting amongst themselves about who is a Christian and who isn't, it just confirms that I made the correct decision to walk away from this joke of a religion.
but this politically correct version of Christianity just bores me no end.
But, if you aren't a Christian, how do you know this is a PC version of Christianity isn't the true version?
Brian.

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robinrohan
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Message 143 of 301 (348450)
09-12-2006 2:51 PM
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09-12-2006 2:38 PM


So why does it bother you so much if you aren't a Christian?
Its sentimentality irritates me. The next thing you know they will be turning Ecclesiastes into a diatribe against public apathy. It's a cultural plague.
But, if you aren't a Christian, how do you know this is a PC version of Christianity isn't the true version?
I'm not sure what you mean by "true version," but you are the one who convincingly argued some time ago that Jar's religion cannot be called "Christianity." I'm just agreeing with you.

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iano
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Message 144 of 301 (348457)
09-12-2006 3:13 PM
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09-12-2006 2:38 PM


I mean, I am an atheist and I couldnt care less how people choose to define their faith. However, I do get a chuckle at the Christians fighting amongst themselves about who is a Christian and who isn't, it just confirms that I made the correct decision to walk away from this joke of a religion.
You do know that if any (general) version is true this means that you have fallen for the very simplest sleights of hand. The spirtitual equivilent of the "three cups and a pea" trick? You would have been one of satans easier lays...
"Here lieth Brian. He went without a whimper"

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Heathen
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Message 145 of 301 (348459)
09-12-2006 3:21 PM
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09-12-2006 3:13 PM


iano writes:
You do know that if any (general) version is true this means that you have fallen for the very simplest sleights of hand. The spirtitual equivilent of the "three cups and a pea" trick? You would have been one of satans easier lays...
Indeed Iano... You may very well have picked the wrong one too.

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robinrohan
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Message 146 of 301 (348462)
09-12-2006 3:38 PM
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09-12-2006 2:38 PM


However, I do get a chuckle at the Christians fighting amongst themselves about who is a Christian and who isn't, it just confirms that I made the correct decision to walk away from this joke of a religion.
Brian says this, but I have my doubts. I think he might be a Christian. Why else would he study the history of Christianity and why else would he argue with Jar about whether or not Jar's religion could be labelled Christianity?

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iano
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Message 147 of 301 (348479)
09-12-2006 5:10 PM
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09-12-2006 1:48 PM


I find many of Christ's sayings attractive in a literary sense. His "anti-establishment" side doesn't interest me.
Literary sense! Literary sense!!
I give up....

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iano
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Message 148 of 301 (348480)
09-12-2006 5:17 PM
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09-12-2006 3:21 PM


Indeed Iano... You may very well have picked the wrong one too.
Afraid that's not possible Crevo. God can prove he is not satan (by just being God as it happens). If he couldn't manage that then he wouldn't be God - now would he?

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Heathen
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Message 149 of 301 (348481)
09-12-2006 5:27 PM
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09-12-2006 5:17 PM


iano writes:
God can prove he is not satan
well I've only got your word for that haven't I?
Paul daniels can 'Prove' that he is 'magic' can he not?
Edited by Creavolution, : No reason given.
Edited by Creavolution, : spelling

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robinrohan
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Message 150 of 301 (348490)
09-12-2006 5:47 PM
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09-12-2006 5:10 PM


Morals in the Gospels
Literary sense! Literary sense!!
I give up....
Well, from a moral standpoint, these generalized abstract rules such as "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" don't make much sense to me. For one, I don't think it's possible and two, I'm not even sure it's desirable. It doesn't seem to apply to real life as I know it.

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