Thanks for sharing with us your experience. It reminds me of my own.
It seems that the originator is mostly interested in what "unbelievers" (in Holy Spirit, I suppose) have to say. So I have been hesitant to write anything.
But I found ramoss's post comparing the Holy Spirit to the Shekinah light in the innermost part of the tabernacle, insightful. Ramoss didn't mention anything about the tabernacle. But the comparison of the Shekinah to the Holy Spirit I found interesting.
And also the concept of feminine aspect of God seen in the Holy Spirit, if true, explains something that I have wondered about in the New Testament for a long time.
Anyway, the originator seems interested in what non-believing views of the Holy Spirit are.
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The Holy Spirit is God finally reaching us to get inside of us.
The Holy Spirit is the Father and the Son coming to man to impart, dispense the divine into man's being.
The Holy Spirit is:
1.) Holy - meaning He is separated from all things common. Everything that exists is in one catagory of "common" things. And God Himself is in a whole other catagory. God is unique in an ultimate sense. He is different from all other things which have being. God alone is holy.
So this essence of God is unique and uncommon; separated from all other things which exists. This is "holy."
One caveat: In the Bible things which are consecrated to God are also called "holy", ie. holy angels, holy anointing oil.
2.) Spirit - is a word meaning wind or breath. This is a limited way in which human language can discribe something abstract in a divine and mystical way.
Holy Spirit is God Himself. And Holy Spirit is "pneuma" or "breath". And this pneuma is Jesus Christ Himself. The Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ in another form. The Holy Spirit is the man Jesus Christ in His pneumatic form.
The Holy Spirit is God in Christ put in a form in which He can enter into man's innermost spiritual being.
There was a time in my early Christian life when I spent considerable time trying to figure out when and how the disciples received the Holy Spirit.
I was musing over many verses about the Holy Spirit in the books of Acts and in John's gospel.
I was trying to figure out John 20:22 which says "And when He had said this, He breathed into them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit."
I was trying to understand how this was related to or contradicted Acts account of the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. Then it seemed that the Holy Spirit Himself spoke to me inwardly.
The verse said "Receive the Holy Spirit." It did not say "[Figure out] the Holy Spirit" or "[Analyze] the Holy Spirit"
The Lord Jesus seemed to be impressing me that it was a time for me simply to "Receive ... the Holy Spirit." That is to open up my being to the Holy Spirit. That was more important at this time then for me to figure out when the Holy Spirit came to the church.
It is easy for us to miss the point. Not that we should not study matters like the Holy Spirit. But I was impressed that it was more important for me to "Receive" this Holy Spirit and to be filled with Him more and more.
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