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jar
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Message 7 of 149 (379485)
01-24-2007 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-23-2007 4:01 PM


Wonderful Buz
You just proved that God is not supernatural. ROTFLMAO

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 71 of 149 (380416)
01-27-2007 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by jordo
01-27-2007 9:00 AM


Re: Jesus is coming
Well that is an area where we can help you. Simply answer the following questions:
  • exact nature of the Natural Disaster (ie: magnitude 8.1 earthquake located at 32 deg. 41.8 min. N (32.697N), 116 deg. 3.3 min. W (116.055W) at a depth of 7.2 km).
  • exact date of the Natural Disaster in the form yyyyddmmhhmmss in the time zone where the Natural Disaster happens.
  • If said Natural Disaster is of a magnitude to cover more than one time zone, a list of all areas effected and the appropriate time of effect for each location.
  • an exact description of what "people's perception of jesus" means.
  • exact date of the return of Jesus in the form yyyyddmmhhmmss and whether that is GMT or related to the perceiver's local time.
Once the times have passed we will be able to determine if you are really able to predict the future or just another Liar for Jesus.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 81 of 149 (380570)
01-27-2007 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
01-27-2007 9:41 PM


Buz just makes shit up as usual.
Jar says he believes the Nicene Creed which includes the bodily resurrection of Jesus.
Here is the Nicene Creed.
Please point out where it says "bodily resurrection of Jesus"'
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
Buz, don't you ever get tired of rewriting scripture to fit your puny little goddlet? Doesn't Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit ever get old for you or do you just enjoy doing it?

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 85 of 149 (380583)
01-27-2007 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Buzsaw
01-27-2007 11:17 PM


Re: Where Is Jesus?
Buz said
Jar says he believes the Nicene Creed which includes the bodily resurrection of Jesus.
I posted the Nicene Creed. Where in the Nicene Creed does it say bodily Buz?
Are you really as ignorant of Christianity as you seem? Do you really know NOTHING of the Christian Faith?
One more time, here is the Nicene Creed.
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Where does it say bodily Buz. Just point out the line.
Two phases Buz. Resurrection and then Ascension.
To think Jesus is some bodily critter would make Jesus as puny and picayune as that goddlet you created and worship. Don't you ever get tired of blaspheming?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 98 of 149 (380653)
01-28-2007 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Buzsaw
01-28-2007 12:58 AM


So once again Buz just denies reality and hand waves evidence away
Whatever. Believe what you want. I'm going by the scholars and assuming that reasonable folks who believe in the creed have enough sense to assume the Biblical ressurection as per the Bible is implied in the creed. Open a thread if you want to debate it with anyone who has lots of time on their hand for debating nonsense.
So once again when presented with the actual text that refutes your assertion you simply try to change the subject and hand wave the evidence away. I notice you slyly try to hide the fact that you used the word "bodily" earlier. You also try to misdirect folks attention by switching to "the Bible" where earlier the subject was the Nicene Creed.
Why is it Buz that when presented with the actual texts that refute your nonsense assertions you always avoid dealing with the actual evidence?
You don't have to remain ignorant about Christianity Buz, many of us are willing to try to help you learn at least the very basics.
The issue is really very simple as I pointed out to you up thread. There are two events, the Resurrection and the Ascension. There is nothing about the Ascension to make anyone think that Jesus post Ascension is some bodily critter.
Buz, all of your efforts to make God and Jesus some physical beings simply diminishes GOD, trivializes GOD, turns GOD from being SuperNatural into simply natural.
Why must you continuously try to turn GOD into some picayune bling-bling pimp daddy?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 122 of 149 (380878)
01-29-2007 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
01-28-2007 8:20 PM


First off GOD is NOT the Biblical God (or Biblical Gods even)
Your problem is that Percy, Jar, Phat and a number of you believe this spirit exists as well as his son Jesus whom their Bible declares to be with God at this time. If this spirit being exists with his son and other spirit beings, where was he existing during and before the singularity if there was not outside of the singularity? What's so silly about that? The discussion isn't silly. You appear to want the problem to go away rather than to admit the problem exists. The universe is suppose to include everything that exists as I understand science on that count.
Well Buz, the fact is that you know nothing about Science, less about Theology than you know about Science and far less about Christianity than you know about Theology.
First off GOD is not the "Biblical God". If GOD exists, then GOD is GOD, no qualifiers, no limiting labels.
The Bible is but one book that tries to envision GOD, one Map, and is NOT the Territory itself.
Questions like "where was he existing during and before the singularity if there was not outside of the singularity?" are not just silly, they are stupid. GOD Himself summed it up rather nicely in "I Am!"
GOD is and was and will be.
GOD is not matter.
GOD is not body.
While the Universe may well be within GOD, GOD is not bounded.
Why must you continue to try to make GOD small, insignificant, picayune, trivial, inane?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 139 of 149 (384050)
02-09-2007 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Buzsaw
02-09-2007 8:43 PM


Re: Jehovah Now, Then And Forever IN The Universe.
LOL
It is a poem Buz. The clue might be that it is ...
A Psalm.

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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 141 of 149 (384053)
02-09-2007 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Buzsaw
02-09-2007 8:57 PM


Re: Jehovah Now, Then And Forever IN The Universe.
So?
It is simply poetic, not literal.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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