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The Biblical God Incompatible With Big Bang.

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01-27-2007 11:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 82 by Buzsaw
01-27-2007 10:48 PM

Re: the system of heavens
It does appear to imply that God's heaven may be in the northern region of the cosmos relative to earth in Isaiah 14:12-14. Perhaps (I say 'perhaps') that may have some bearing on the magnetic North and that North is referred to as "up."
Which way is "north" cosmologically speaking?
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01-27-2007 11:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 86 by Buzsaw
01-27-2007 11:29 PM

Re: the system of heavens
My understanding is that it is somewhat offset from the N Pole relative to earth. Perhaps it was at one time due north
But north is a relative direction, it is not an absolute.
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01-27-2007 11:49 PM 		Reply to: Message 88 by iceage
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Re: the system of heavens
Keep in mind when dealing with demigods or tribal gods, the earth is often considered the seat of the universe and hence provides absolute references.
oh yeah, I forgot that we're talking about a limited being who only gives out cryptic messages
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01-28-2007 1:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 90 by Buzsaw
01-28-2007 12:51 AM

Re: the system of heavens
Or am I missunderstanding your point??
yes you are. My point is: North is a relative direction. If you are standing at the north pole, then in what direction is north? To say that heaven exists:
in the northern region of the cosmos relative to earth
is a meaningless statement as north only applies on Earth. In what direction from the Earth is "north".
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