The Biblical God Incompatible With Big Bang.

com'on buz, you know better than this. this is a contradiction of your beliefs as I understand them. God occupies a separate space from himself, and he is that separate space? oh boy. you've assigned a purpose to a purposeless thing. the atmoshpere just "is". the separate layers are arbitrary. we defined what make them up. the only real difference is that each layer has less mass than the one below it, and gets colder the further up you go (the ionosphere being really wierd--it's the coldest in the normal sense, but each atom is quite hot). it wasn't designed for us. in fact, we don't even have our original atmosphere.

the only thing I'm going to say is about this: utterly wrong. The only radioactive dating I'm aware of that even has a thing to do with the atmosphere is C14-dating, and only because a main source of carbon is from carbon dioxide.The layers inthe atmosphere don't have a purpose per se.The reason they take on those characteristics has to deal with the mass of each layer, their temperature, and some other variables. tell me, does a solid have a purpose? or is it merely the result of "cold" atoms?ABE:
I just realized that you might be mistaking "characteristics" for "purpose". most of what you listed as "purposes" of the layers are actually there characteristics. The other stuff (except for the religious junk in there) might be called "emergent properties". why does such a layer protect against UV rays? because of the ozone (O3, not O2) there. That's an emergent property. Not a purpose.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

buz, you oughta know by now that the weakest argument is that of incredulity. just because you can not imagine it so does not mean it is so.the other main problem with your argument--you think the world was created for us (in the general sense, being life). It wasn't. It was just made. And not by purely random processes either.secular science does not have much to explain (in terms of your objections, i would say). only your imagination is lacking.

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rob, i was asking him to use his imagination. that's not faith.if I cannot imagine the existence of a God, does that mean he does not exist? of course not. just because you can't see how something works doesn't mean that it only works how you think it does.if anything, I ask him to actually study up on science and see what it does say and how we know the things we know. i don't want him to take my word for it. granted, this requires effort on his (and your part), and something tells me you won't put any effort into this.

hey buz, there ain't one massive magnetic field in the universe. once you leave the magnetic field of this planet, you have no more "north".besides, which way is north in a 3-D world? we think of the earth's surface in terms of 2-D when it comes to directions. you travel left, right, forward, backwards (often referred to as up and down, but these are being used in a horizontal sense, not a vertical sense).in space, you have freedom of movement in every direction. which one is north?

is your faith in god based on the holes that science has yet to explain?come on, for an all-powerful god, he doesn't seem to have much power over where he gets put. if I were you, I'd let him be all-powerful and be the mover of what we call the natural world--not the king of the hole.

really? No wonder the bible is so screwed up. It was written by a bunch of mentally unstable people!you know, arguing that "because someone else did x makes me okay" doesn't hold any water, period. in fact, as I just did, it can be turned against you quite readily and easily, making you look the fool.since when did arguing that "before you acuse me of being wrong by murdering these thousands, Ida Amin did the same thing!" work?