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Brian
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Message 285 of 308 (456904)
02-20-2008 4:24 PM


History written in a book can never be taken as 100% true, this is a simple fact of historical research.
To accept something as 'likely' you need to have a good reason for doing so.
For example, that semitic tribes followed well-known pastoral nomad routes is not an unreasonable thing to accept, and MAY be true.
Something such as a man living for 930 years or 969 years is impossible and can safely be accepted as untrue.
So if you are an all or nothing person regarding the Bible, i.e. if there's one mistake then ditch the whole thing, then you need to ditch the whole collection of biblical texts.
Taking a literal view of the Bible does the Bible a disservice.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 293 of 308 (457150)
02-21-2008 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by TheTruth
02-20-2008 6:16 PM


Yes in deed it is impossible in our times under ourconditions.
Are you suggesting that worldwide conditions have changed in the last 4500 years? If so, how do you know they have changed and what exactly has changed?
If you look at the atmoshperical difference from then till now (aka post flood) life spans have decreased rapidly.
The thing is my friend this is actually up to you to provide evidence to support what you are claiming. So can you provide evidence that ”conditions’ have changed and that the old conditions supported longevity.
Yes as modern medicine improves life span grows,
Improvements in diets and sanitation helps as well.
but since the water canopy was let go
Water canopy? Which water canopy is this?
and the biblical flood ended the oxygen levels have decreased and the radation levels have increased.
What evidence do you have that oxygen levels have decreased and radiation levels have increased in the last 4500 years?
Also, if thing have changed how do conditions affect longevity.
So, essentially, what evidence do you have that people used to live for nearly one thousand years?

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Brian
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From: Scotland
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Message 303 of 308 (457288)
02-22-2008 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 300 by TheTruth
02-21-2008 6:39 PM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
You seem to have misunderstood my post.
I was asking for evidence and not to have some Bible verses quoted at me.
So what evidence do you have for all these changes in 'conditions'?
Don't quote the Bible, give me facts and figures relating to oxygen and radiation levels.
For example, what were raditaion levels at 4500 years ago and what are they now?
What were oxygen levels 4500 years ago and what are they now?
How do these various levels affect longevity and how do we know?
Thanks.

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Brian
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Message 305 of 308 (457304)
02-22-2008 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 304 by TheTruth
02-22-2008 11:30 AM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
You still don't seem to be gettng the hang of it mate.
The tropical fossils found in Antartica.
What does this have to do with people living to nearly one thousand years of age?
The water canopy would have made temperatures tropical all around the earth.
Would it?
Even if it did, are you saying that people in tropical areas live longer than those people who do not live in tropical areas? Are there people in tropical areas today who live to 900 years of age?
Dinosours or great lizards simply over grown lizards.
What does this have to do with human longevity?
With out the radiation of the direct sun that occurs today their life span would have been greatly increased humans to would have extended life.
What is your evidence for this? How do you know this?
This is an empty claim bud. All you are doing is saying things without any support.
What experiments have been done to show that people lived longer without the radiation failing to come through this imaginary water canopy?
The "giants" skeletons found; when you live in high oxygen low radiation your body is able to grow bigger, stronger, and heal faster(they use a high oxygen chamber for athletic injuries to speed up the healing process).
I'd like some evidence that people grew bigger, healed faster, and were stronger 4500 years ago than they are today.
This website might help explain better.
Percy discourages bare links.
Pick the best evidence from the sites you link to and present a case please.
Brian.
Edited by Brian, : spelling

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4959 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 307 of 308 (457387)
02-23-2008 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 306 by TheTruth
02-22-2008 12:31 PM


Re: Ok wrapping up my points
Look it up its fact.
I'm afraid that in a debate this is actually your job mate, you need to do your own homework and provide facts and figures to try snd persuade me that what you are saying is true, and so far you havent supported a single thing.
Let's try again.
We will take it one question at a time, so......
What were the oxygen levels before the Flood and what were they after the Flood?
Once you provide the FACTS and FIGURES for this question we can move on.

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