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Author Topic:   Writers of Scripture carried along by the Spirit?
Phat
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Message 39 of 43 (304392)
04-15-2006 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
04-14-2006 3:19 PM


Steering back towards the topic....
Mr. Ex writes:
1) If you believe that the authors of the Scriptures were moved by the Spirit of God, then what does the passage found in II Peter below mean to you?
2) In other words, what were the dynamics involved-- whether culturally, spiritually, or historically for example?
II Peter writes:
We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
From my own perspective, as is prerequisite for response in this thread, I'll say that I do believe that the Scriptures are in some way authored by God. Refining this more clearly in my own Christian perspective, I believe the authors of the Scriptures wrote as they were directed by the inspiration of the Spirit of God.
I think there are different levels of revelation. And although all levels, each with their own corresponding level of responsibility, are inspired by the Holy Spirit, I still nonetheless believe that the Holy Spirit can communicate to us by various mediums and peoples, including other monotheists, polytheists, and atheists.Although I don't believe the world has been around for merely 6,000 years, in the scope of recent human history since the last ice age, this quote noted above does somewhat capture what I believe as far as the earliest peoples of the world rising out of am initial period of darkness. I believe God inspired Moses to whittle away the multiple layers of alternative thinking to recapture -- whether by poetic utterances, prophetic statements, or moral instruction -- the primal historical revelation of man's common origins once again. And this is the dialectic that I believe the Holy Scriptures have undergone over the course of human history.
In other words, although I don't believe the Scriptures are a gradual invention of humanity's collective "unconscious" religious thinking over time, they still nonetheless appear to be a progressive "dialectic" revelation of God's original will by the Holy Spirit-- the same Spirit which has been calling all of humanity from the very beginning.
So lets refocus, Mr. Ex! Debate the position and don't get involved with quibbles among the post respondants. Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. Even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained; and even in the best of all hearts, there remains a small corner of evil. --Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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Phat
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Message 41 of 43 (306099)
04-23-2006 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Mr. Ex Nihilo
04-23-2006 11:09 AM


Re: Refocussing: Beginning with an Historical Perspective
Mr.Ex writes:
There seems to be strong elements of world-wide shift in thinking transpiring during this period of human history. And that it appears to be transpring at roughly the same time within the scope of human history seems to be more than a coincidence in my opinion.
More than coincidence? What do you think happened?
Seeing as how communication during those times was slow, it seems interesting that the ideas of cultures throughout the world intermingled at all.
I agree with your hypothesis concerning the snake thing, BTW.
Im trying to figure out how to tie Peter into all of this, however....
This message has been edited by Phat, 04-23-2006 09:37 AM

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