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Author Topic:   God caused or uncaused?
pbee
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Message 3 of 297 (415770)
08-12-2007 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Rob
08-11-2007 11:03 PM


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whether there can be an infinite regress of causes
Wouldn't this be 'an infinite regression of causes?' it is not quite clear what issue the initial post is after. Forgive me for sounding like a simpleton, but could you throw out a bone(one line question) with a question mark attached to it?

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pbee
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Message 29 of 297 (416339)
08-15-2007 9:00 AM
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08-15-2007 8:10 AM


Re: Original Thoughts
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What about the universe itself? There is no indication that matter had a beginning, is there?
We have evidence to support that the universe had a point of origin. Wouldn't that qualify as a beginning?
As for matter itself, we have very little capacity to analyze it at this point so it would be premature to try and draw conclusions as to whether or not it supports the concept of creation.
I'm guessing that it will though

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Message 31 of 297 (416343)
08-15-2007 9:19 AM
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08-15-2007 9:10 AM


Re: Original Thoughts
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So the uncaused first cause assertion has no evidence, eh? Poor God!
Can this even be classified as coherent? The rest of your comment is residual.

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Message 56 of 297 (416474)
08-15-2007 9:56 PM
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08-15-2007 8:44 PM


Re: Alright let's look at this...
Fascinating video Rob, thanks for sharing.

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Message 58 of 297 (416482)
08-15-2007 10:21 PM
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08-15-2007 10:10 PM


Re: Alright let's look at this...
Rob, I don't mean to be the party basher but I would like to know what you think of this comment regarding the Video in question.
quote:
Proteins do self-assemble without DNA. Saying otherwise is a lie or a falsehood. These people are ignoring known biochemistry. It happens. It sounds like another version of "irreducible complexity", which we already know is creationist-speak for "too difficult for me to envisage". Just like mousetraps. Good things these guys are not engineers. Natural selection operates before Life. These guys just are not intelligent enough to cope.
Again, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but I thought it was interesting that some would contest that the information given here is not accurate or honest.
Personally, despite my own fascination with science and evolution, this stuff is beyond my own understanding.

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