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Message 746 of 1864 (900488)
10-27-2022 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 740 by Phat
10-27-2022 10:14 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Phat writes:
Do you want your taxes going up for a kid you never knew?
Did Jesus tell his followers to only help children they knew?
Liberals try and support everything by appropriating other people's money. They should not have this carte blanche.
How do Conservatives fund the government's budget?

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Message 747 of 1864 (900489)
10-27-2022 7:01 PM
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10-27-2022 10:08 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Phat writes:
From my vantage point, it seems that one side supports the Right To Life and the other side supports the Right To Choose.
It is interesting that Conservatives are all for the government inserting itself into a woman's doctor's office. So much for small government and the right to rid yourself of governmental interference.

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Message 753 of 1864 (900536)
10-28-2022 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 751 by candle2
10-28-2022 12:11 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, isn't it also interesting that Conservatives took a hard
look at slavery and affirmed that it was a moral sin.
That sounds entirely made up.
Do you think that owning slaves is a far worse sin than
murdering helpless little babies.
I think owning slaves is far worse than aborting a fetus.
Do you think that a man who is promiscuous and
impregnates a woman should be held accountable for
his actions?
Such men are held accountable, and I support such laws and policies. Child support is a good idea.
But it does take two to tango, as the old saying goes. Women aren't innocent victims (except in cases where consent is not given or is compromised).

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Message 757 of 1864 (900547)
10-28-2022 1:24 PM
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10-28-2022 12:57 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, you say that men who behave irresponsibility
should be held accountable for their actions.
I think all people should be held accountable for being irresponsible, not just men. At the same time, accountability can mean many things. It can mean being held accountable by your family or friends. It can also mean being held accountable by a boss at work. It can also mean being held accountable by a court of law.
Why shouldn't a woman who is promiscuous be held to
the same standard?
Men and women should be held to the same standards.
Also, tell me when a fetus inside a woman is not human.
It's a tough spectrum to define, but I don't think a fetus a couple of months old is human in the same way you and I are.
Check your history books. The Republican party did not
exists before Lincoln.
Conservatives and Republicans weren't synonyms at that point in history.

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Message 767 of 1864 (900853)
11-01-2022 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 765 by candle2
10-31-2022 7:52 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Dwise, the Democratic Party is responsible for Jim Crow
laws.
It was the conservatives in the Democratic Party who did that. They left the Democratic party when the Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act. Guess where they went? The Republican party where they had like minded conservatives. The only reason that conservatives were not in the Republican party before that is because it was the Party of Lincoln, and their southern prejudices would not allow them to be Republicans. It was the liberals that that ended Jim Crow, and they did so by defeating the conservatives in the votes for the Civil Rights Act.

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Message 779 of 1864 (900928)
11-02-2022 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 770 by candle2
11-01-2022 1:02 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, since Biden has been in office fuel prices
have doubled and tripled.
Yes. This is a combination between the war in Ukraine and inflation caused by money that was pumped into the market to prevent a recession during pandemic lockdowns. Would you rather have had another Great Depression, because that is where we were headed.
Biden is quick to throw the less fortunate under
the bus. I see no concern and no compassion in
his eyes.
How so?
Blacks, elderly, and those with limited incomes
are having a really difficult time, with no end in
sight.
Yes. Pandemics and the resulting economic effects can and do have disproportionate effects on the poor. Biden helped ease some of those problems through several programs during the recovery from the initial lockdowns, such as direct payments and rent assistance.
Do you think the less fortunate deserve better
than this?
Yes, but Republicans will block any such legislation.

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Message 780 of 1864 (900929)
11-02-2022 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 769 by candle2
11-01-2022 12:44 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, make a list of all the racist Democrats who left the
Party after passage of the CRA and the became
Republicans.
You need to familiarize yourself with history:
quote:
Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.
These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes.
It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”
How Republicans and the 'Southern Strategy' Won Over the Once Democratic South - HISTORY
Strom Thurmond is the prime example, and there are many, many more. The South once voted solidly Democratic, but now it votes solidly Republican, and that started after the passing of the Civil Rights Act and the defection of the Dixiecrats from the Democratic party to the Republican party. It's not a big secret.

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Message 792 of 1864 (900981)
11-03-2022 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 787 by candle2
11-02-2022 5:38 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, I am 69 years old, and I know with crystal clarity
when gas prices started up.

In Murray, KY, I was paying $1.60 per gallon when Trump
left office.
When Russia invaded Ukraine gas was already over $4.00
per gallon.
Ummm, no. In Febuarary 2022, before the invasion of Ukrain, gas prices were around $3.50.
AAA Gas Prices
Prices were at that price because of a world wide shortage of oil, even at that point. The invasion of Ukraine worsened that shortage. What do you want Biden to do, force other countries to produce more oil? The US is already a net exporter of oil. This has been true for Biden's entire term. We produce more oil than we consume.
When Trump left office America was producing enough
oil to supply all our needs, as well as exporting to our
allies.
We never produced enough oil to supply ourselves and all of our allies. Never.
The very first day Biden was in office he stopped the
pipeline from transporting oil, even though trucking it
would be two to three times more costly.
What active pipeline did Biden stop?
His administration began to place numerous and
costly restrictions on American companies who
had leases to drill on federal land.
We were already a net exporter.
He made it too costly for them to and make a profit,
which is what the Democrats wanted.

At the same time Biden encouraged the building of a
gas pipeline from Russia to Western Europe, which
forced them to rely on Russia for their energy.

We could have provided them with this energy.
Yet more bare assertions with no facts to back them up.
Everyone of the also stated, and strongly, their support
for socialism.
Republicans also strong stated their support of socialism in the form of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system of hospitals, and numerous other social programs.

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Message 809 of 1864 (901106)
11-04-2022 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 808 by Phat
11-04-2022 3:05 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Phat writes:
If Jesus was Gods one and only son, He most certainly did exist.
According to the concept of the Trinity, Jesus is God, so that would make God God's only son.
If you were God, your son could and would exist the moment he became a gleam in his father's eye...
Jesus is God, so that would mean God started to exist when God was a gleam in his own eye. That doesn't make much sense.

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Message 825 of 1864 (901251)
11-07-2022 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 788 by candle2
11-02-2022 7:34 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
The Dixiecrats were Democrats. Besides Strom
Thurmond one other Dixiecrat might have done so.
However, Strom did not switch until the mid 60s. By
that time he did not have the same rhetoric
The racist Southern Democrats defected over to the Republican party. That's a fact. That's where they remain.
You also seem to ignore modern history. Which party is fighting for minority rights? Democrats or Republicans? At which rallies to you see the battle flag of the Confederacy? Is it at Democratic rallies, or Republican ones? Who is fighting against Affirmative Action and Voting rights that were part of the Civil Rights Act? It isn't Democrats.

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Message 875 of 1864 (902118)
11-17-2022 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 867 by candle2
11-16-2022 7:32 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big
candle2 writes:
Paulk, at Mount Sinai (Jabal al Lawz) we have the cave
of Elijah; altar of Moses; wells; golden calf altar; an old
stream that ran down: blackened top; 3000 graves
cemetary; lakebed; petroglyphs of bulls; and, Moses'
speaking platform located a little ways up the mountain.
Ron Wyatt has been dead for years, and he's still conning people. Amazing.

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Message 912 of 1864 (902366)
11-22-2022 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 910 by ringo
11-22-2022 11:05 AM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
ringo writes:
Ron Wyatt reminds me of Constantine's mother, who went arount the Holky Land saying, "This must be part of the True Cross," and, "This must be where Jesus' tomb was." It's all just the fancies of a wild imagination
Or just outright scams.
quote:
One of the individuals who I interviewed, who lost approximately 30,000 thousand dollars to Ron Wyatt, went to Israel with him, supposedly to see some of these sights and record them on film. An assignment editor of a major television station in Nasheville went with them. Not only did this individual not see any of these incredible discoveries, but his wife was told by one of Ron Wyatt's sons that the chariot wheels that Ron supposedly discovered in the Gulf of Aqaba were planted there by Ron. Mr. Wyatt gave this couple some coins which he supposedly found at the Ark of the Covenant site. Again, one of Wyatt's sons informed the wife that Wyatt bought those coins. Gentle, soft-spoken Ron verbally abused an Arab car rental agent when the agent told Mr. Wyatt that his son was to young to drive the vehicle.
This couple and the television man returned with nothing to show for the ten's of thousands of dollars he gave to Ron. Later, Ron returned and asked for $10,000 dollars more. This man told Ron he would give him the money if he agreed to take a lie detector test and sign a statement agreeing to allow this man to use the results of the test any way he wanted. Ron tried to get the money without agreeing to take the test, but when he saw that he would not get another dime without the test, he finally signed the statement and took the test. In the words of the man who put Ron Wyatt through the test, as told by the man who gave Ron Wyatt all the previous money, "He failed just about everything except his name."
After this, Ron Wyatt physically threatened the man who had Wyatt sign the statement. I also found out one of the so-called scientific apparatuses Ron Wyatt used to determine that he verified the true Noah's Ark, was a device advertised in the back of treasure hunter magazines. It was nothing but a glorified "divining rod." It had absolutely no scientific value whatsoever, yet leading ancient antiquities professors, Creation Science people with advanced degrees in geology, and newsmen fell for a modern version of the old water "divining rod."
A Great Christian Scam

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Message 978 of 1864 (905111)
01-17-2023 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 977 by candle2
01-17-2023 4:51 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Evolutionists believe that life was created by random
chance.
There are many evolutionists who think the first life was created by God. This is common among Christians who accept evolution.
More to the point, not one thing in the theory of evolution would need to be changed if the first life was created by God and the biodiversity we see today evolved from that universal common ancestor.
It takes
great faith to believe that life came from nonlife.
But it requires no faith to believe life was magicked into existence by a deity?

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Message 980 of 1864 (905114)
01-18-2023 11:30 AM
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01-18-2023 10:57 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, in your vision of theistic evolution are the first
eleven chapters of Genesis to be taken as allegories?
Ask a theistic evolutionist. All I know is that there are millions and millions of Christians who accept evolution.

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Message 983 of 1864 (905117)
01-18-2023 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 981 by candle2
01-18-2023 12:12 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
Taq, the number of people who believe a certain way has
nothing to do with whether they are right or not.
We are not talking about whether they are right nor not. We are talking about what they say their beliefs are. Earlier, you said:
"Evolutionists believe that life was created by random chance."
I was pointing out that this isn't true of all evolutionists. There are evolutionists who believe the first life was created by God.

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