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Tanypteryx
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Message 1801 of 1864 (910421)
04-22-2023 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1800 by Dredge
04-22-2023 3:23 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Sludge writes:
Since you claim to know how the life-form changes evident in the fossil record happened, please provide a step-by-step description of how insects evolved from non-insects.
Reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection. That's how life works. It's not magic.

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

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Message 1802 of 1864 (910430)
04-22-2023 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1798 by AZPaul3
04-21-2023 8:41 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
Mammals evolved from synapsids
Since you claim to know how the life-form changes evident in the fossil record happened, please provide a step-by-step description of how mammals evolved from synapsids.

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Message 1803 of 1864 (910432)
04-22-2023 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1801 by Tanypteryx
04-22-2023 3:37 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes:
Since you claim to know how the life-form changes evident in the fossil record happened, please provide a step-by-step description of how insects evolved from non-insects.
Tanypteryx writes:
Reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection. That's how life works.
Okay, so you can't provide a step-by-step description of how insects evolved from non-insects. You're a scientist specialising in insects, but it’s apparent you know nothing at all about how they evolved.
At this point, your claim to know how life evolved on this planet is looking a tad fraudulent.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1804 of 1864 (910433)
04-22-2023 5:22 PM
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04-22-2023 5:16 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Good grief, I already told how evolution happens. Reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection. That's what happens in each step, that's how life works.
ABE:
Sludge writes:
At this point, your claim to know how life evolved on this planet is looking a tad fraudulent.
So, do you have evidence of a different process than reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1805 of 1864 (910434)
04-22-2023 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1804 by Tanypteryx
04-22-2023 5:22 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Tany writes:
Good grief, I already told how evolution happens. Reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection. That's what happens in each step, that's how life works.
Come on, didn't you hear the guy? He needs the complete genealogical history of the last billion years for each individual species of animal and plant that's ever existed. Genomes if possibles. Get on it, what's keeping you?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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AZPaul3
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Message 1806 of 1864 (910436)
04-22-2023 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1802 by Dredge
04-22-2023 5:01 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
... please provide a step-by-step description of how mammals evolved from synapsids.
No. Look it up yourself. Fuckin' lazy ass.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1807 of 1864 (910438)
04-22-2023 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1805 by Tangle
04-22-2023 5:32 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
He needs the complete genealogical history of ...
Naw, he just needs to read a good biology text.
Amazon.com

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1808 of 1864 (910440)
04-22-2023 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1806 by AZPaul3
04-22-2023 5:40 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Your inability to respond to my challenge exposes your claim to know how mammals (or how any organism) evolved as fraudulent. But you're just being a good Darwinoid ... ie, a liar and a con-man. Truly APauling.

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Message 1809 of 1864 (910441)
04-22-2023 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1805 by Tangle
04-22-2023 5:32 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Tangled writes:
Come on, didn't you hear the guy? He needs the complete genealogical history of the last billion years for each individual species of animal and plant that's ever existed. Genomes if possibles. Get on it, what's keeping you?
Tanypteryx is too proud and gutless to admit that he can't even provide a basic description of how insects evolved, let alone provide the details you describe.
You Darwinoids are all the same ... bs-artists, liars and con-men ... fine atheist stock.

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Dredge
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Message 1810 of 1864 (910442)
04-22-2023 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1807 by Tanypteryx
04-22-2023 5:54 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Tanypteryx writes:
he just needs to read a good biology text.
Pray tell, which "good biology text" provides a step-by-step description of how insects evolved?
None exist, bcoz no one knows ... and ditto for the evolution of any other organism.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1811 of 1864 (910443)
04-22-2023 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1810 by Dredge
04-22-2023 8:09 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Sludge writes:
Pray tell, which "good biology text" provides a step-by-step description of how insects evolved?
I have repeatedly given you the answer. Reproduction and descent with modification, genetics and natural selection. That's what happens in each step, that's how life works. Next step, repeat.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 1812 of 1864 (910446)
04-22-2023 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1808 by Dredge
04-22-2023 7:43 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Your inability to respond to my challenge exposes your claim to know how mammals (or how any organism) evolved as fraudulent.
No. I have the exact answers you too could have. It's your unwillingness to learn despite the evidence available to you that fosters your ignorance. You are so stuck in your fantasy you have to stoop to asinine debating challenges to stay in the conversation. Pathetic catholic cracker muncher.

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Message 1813 of 1864 (910447)
04-23-2023 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1809 by Dredge
04-22-2023 8:03 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes:
… provide a basic description of how insects evolved…
I suggest you start here.
Evolution of insects - Wikipedia
If that isn't enough, you'll find 86 references at the end of the article. If you get stuck, just ask.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Dredge
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Message 1814 of 1864 (910479)
04-24-2023 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1798 by AZPaul3
04-21-2023 8:41 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
How many times have you seen your god make a dinosaur, or anything else?
Never. But I know enough about microbiology to know that life cannot possibly arise naturally, but must be divinely created.
Furthermore, why are you trying to compare religious faith to science? That's so dumb.

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Message 1815 of 1864 (910480)
04-25-2023 12:16 AM
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04-24-2023 11:17 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge in Message 1814 writes:
But I know enough about microbiology to know that life cannot possibly arise naturally, but must be divinely created.
No, you don't know that. You might believe that, but you don't know it.

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