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Which God Phat, which god? Vishnu, Allah, Thor? Have Christians been given the opportunity to ignore them and all the others? There's nothing to ignore. How can a mythical creature that has no tangible or intangible impact on my life be ignored. You don't ignore things that don't exist. Neither you nor I are ignoring pixies are we?Understanding an atheist's position is easy Phat, you just treat your belief in this god thing, the same as every other fantasy entity. It's absolutely no different.

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Maybe this explains it Tangle. My irrationality has been notably more prevalent lately.

I wouldn't say you're more irrational, you just seem a bit more 'needy'. Don't worry about it, 'this too will pass'.

In our society, which is awash with talk about gods, everybody has had an opportunity to know God - unless He is deliberately hiding from some of us. Do you ignore the Loch Ness monster? Leprechauns? The Tooth Fairy?Answer your own question: Is the lack of evidence for them any reason to not believe in them? You're asking the wrong question. You should be asking what you GET from Him that I would want. As far as I can see, you're not GETTING anything that I'm not getting - so why would I put Him in the equation at all?

Yes. There is no reason nor purpose for believing in them. I used to believe in the tooth fairy only to be able to extort money out of her. No. lack of evidence plays a small role. I'm trying to figure you out, though. Answer me this: Would you spend as much time answering questions about Leprechauns as you do about God and Jesus?What is it about the latter characters that make everyone suddenly want their opinion to be known?

What's the reason or purpose for believing in God? So what's the difference between the loch Ness monster, leprechauns, the Tooth Fairy and God? Sure. Start a topic.But bear in mind that I know a lot more about the fictional Christian God than I know about leprechauns. We don't have many leprechaun missionaries trying to convince us to believe. The Internet has a tendency to suck opinions out of people. Don't kid yourself that a lot of chatter about your belief validates your belief.

God exists. God existed before humans even had the capacity or ability to make Him up. You won't find many missionaries from fictional characters. People think long and hard about giving their life.... My point is that validity can be derived in ways apart from objective evidence. Subjective evidence counts also.

Nope. You may believe that one fictional character exists and others do not but that doesn't make your belief different from an atheist who believes in the Loch Ness monster. Sure you will. Ever hear of Mormons? Cultists of all kinds? Snake-oil salesmen? What they're selling is pure fiction. Clearly not. Ever hear of mountain climbers? Thrill-seekers of all kinds? No it doesn't. If it's subjective, it isn't evidence. You're trying to claim that if a lot of people believe it, it must be true (valid). That's nonsense.

You have yet to prove that God is a fictional character. We have done sonar readings in the Loch. Perhaps, but absence of evidence does not conclude evidence of absense.Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

We didn't find God in there either. The same applies to the Loch Ness monster.Mind you, we do have eyewitness accounts of the Loch Ness monster - not of God. There's not enough evidence to conclude that the Loch Ness monster is a real biological. There is no evidence that God is a real spook.

The Lord created man to have FREE CHOICE cause He didn;t want a robot forced to love and obey HIM. He wanted a free individual to learn to appreciate the Father, Son and Mother (Holy Spirit) and do things out of love and experience after learning that the Father and Mother and Sons principles were good for them and good for others.Simple answer, simple truth.The Lord wants us to personnally learn to choose His principles, experience His principles and know His principles, and then decide what to do according to His principles of LOVE.The Lord knew all things before He created them and Yes, created the ultimate falling angel and his angels that knowingly rebelled and choose poorly and lead others to do the same. But its for good as all things work together for good, in the GREAT DESIGN, but atheists and evolutionists reject design and look for excuses and errors in the Lords judgments and mercies and created UNIVERSE. They are foolish, His people are wise and getting wiser the more they choose HIM.

Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything... just give him time to rationalize it.

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Robert A. Heinlein

Nah, me personally dont get into it at all, I hate fantasies and theorising. I want the real thing and something I can experience and KNOW rather than stupid mind numbing denials and idiotic postings from two second thoughts that are unfounded and baseless.I beame a Christian when I tried and proved to myself that the Lord was real, or I should say HE PRIVED IT. Whimps can sit in their caves and theorise, I like the real world, and so went out in the real world and became a full time missionary for forty some years, and Jesus has proven himself as a supplier or my and our needs and we are doing just fine before we meet HIM in person. But there wont be any surprises because we already KNOW HIM in part, and then it will just be in FULL.Thank you Jesus.Amen Coyote ? Amen ? AMEN !Besides all we need tyo know is Jesus is GodProofofJesusDivinityJesus wins again !Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

You're setting the bar too low.