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Author Topic:   The Meaning Of The Trinity
ringo
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Message 466 of 470 (880645)
08-08-2020 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by Juvenissun
08-08-2020 7:30 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Juvenissun writes:

If A=B and B=C, would you agree that A=B=C?


That doesn't help the case for the Trinity. A, B and C are all separate entities. You're trying to prove that 1+1+1=3.

Juvenissun writes:

Deity usually has "spirit" which is another form of the deity who can reach out. Right?


No. Of course not. "Spirit" is an aspect of deity, not a separate deity.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Base12
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Message 467 of 470 (880656)
08-09-2020 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by Base12
08-07-2020 2:37 AM


Base12 writes:

The Trinity is explained in this verse...
Romans 1:20
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."

The Trinity or Godhead is what things are made of.

That's what the verse says, and that what I believe.

What are things made of that consist of three components?

Atoms. Simple.

Not sure why this is even a debate.

For those that are paying attention...

What did Ezekiel see?

Lol...

Matthew 13:13
"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."

Some folks just choose to stay blind I suppose.


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Juvenissun
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Message 468 of 470 (880670)
08-09-2020 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by ringo
08-08-2020 9:40 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
That doesn't help the case for the Trinity. A, B and C are all separate entities. You're trying to prove that 1+1+1=3.

No. Of course not. "Spirit" is an aspect of deity, not a separate deity.

the Bible says:
Jesus IS God; and
Spirit IS God.
That is enough. Whether this means one or three, it does not matter.

"When you see God, you are not really seeing God, but seeing the spirit of God." Does this statement make sense? Spirit is not an aspect (part) of God. Spirit and God are separable. That is why the Spirit is needed. Otherwise, God does not need Spirit.

Anyway, you want to see what the Bible says. And that is what the Bible says. It satisfied your question no matter you believe it or not.


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Juvenissun
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Message 469 of 470 (880671)
08-09-2020 9:37 AM
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08-09-2020 1:11 AM


What did Ezekiel see?

How many times Ezekiel reincarnated so he can see something we can not? (sorry, can't resist)

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ringo
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Message 470 of 470 (880696)
08-09-2020 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 468 by Juvenissun
08-09-2020 9:34 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Juvenissun writes:

the Bible says:
Jesus IS God; and
Spirit IS God.


You're going to have to start providing specific references so we can see if your reading is accurate.

Juvenissun writes:

Whether this means one or three, it does not matter.


Of course it matters. It's the difference between unity, binity and trinity. If you say Spot is a dog and Spot is brown, you're not talking about three entities. Or if you say Spot is brown and Rover is brown, you're not talking about three entities. Nor are you talking about one entity. So it is VERY important to read it exactly as written.

(By the way, I messed up the math in my previous message. It should have said, "You're trying to prove that 1+1+1=1.")

Juvenissun writes:

"When you see God, you are not really seeing God, but seeing the spirit of God." Does this statement make sense?


No.

Juvenissun writes:

Spirit is not an aspect (part) of God. Spirit and God are separable. That is why the Spirit is needed. Otherwise, God does not need Spirit.


What scripture are those statements based on?

Juvenissun writes:

Anyway, you want to see what the Bible says. And that is what the Bible says.


You're going to have to cite chapter and verse.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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