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Topic: God, The Supernatural And the Three Laws
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lfen
Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: 06-24-2004
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Message 121 of 147 (167502)
12-12-2004 7:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 120 by NosyNed
12-12-2004 7:03 PM
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Re: On topic.
Ned, Your post has me actually laughing in my computer chair because the problem is not that Buz is "not competant to discuss these issues", but as I suddenly realized that the real problem is Buz is not competant to realize his incompetance! I don't know why I'm finding this so funny, Buz takes great pride and pleasure in his wild parody of science and the rest of us just tear our hair out! I'm finding this scenario hilarious. Brad appears to know sciences but insists on writing incomphrehensive turgid parody? of some sort of writing. Buz writes straight forward English it's just that it's raving nonsense. Buz annoys more people than Brad simply because at first blush it looks like he is discussing something. Might as well laugh as tear one's hair out over the inevitable. I imagine Buz is a decent person but I'm not going to try and teach him science it just isn't going to take. lfen
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Buzsaw
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Message 122 of 147 (167530)
12-12-2004 8:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by CK
12-12-2004 6:34 PM
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DIRTY POOL!!
This is getting stupid - tackling this on the science front is out because we are told by admin that: a) Buzz gets a special pass because he is slow and b) because it is not meant to be a science thread (which doesn't stop buzz ranting like he is discussing science). Why on the evidence of this thread alone is buzz not in bootcamp? I'm done with this charade of a debate. Admin Ned's bias is showing badly. He can't refute, so he turns to belittlement. That in turn gives the likeminded loosers in this debate a semblence of credibility in their/your meanspirited insults. THAT'S DIRTY POOL, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!
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Buzsaw
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Message 123 of 147 (167536)
12-12-2004 8:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 120 by NosyNed
12-12-2004 7:03 PM
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Who's Running For Cover?
Buz, you have provided jack squat!
You were allowed this topic, you chose it. Now, again, you wish to run for cover when things get a bit hot. Why don't you get it? You know nothing about the sciences. You are not competant to discuss these issues. That's a crock of bull, Ned. I've responded to nearly every post of this thread of counterparts and not one has effectively refuted including you. If you think you're so dang smart, bring up the posts I've made which are contrary to science and debate forthrightly like a man! The unfounded insults you're fostering border guideline violations, imo! We should expect more exemplary stuff from you, being in administration.
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Buzsaw
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Message 124 of 147 (167538)
12-12-2004 9:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 121 by lfen
12-12-2004 7:26 PM
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POOR LOOSERS TURNING NASTY!!
Ned, Your post has me actually laughing in my computer chair because the problem is not that Buz is "not competant to discuss these issues", but as I suddenly realized that the real problem is Buz is not competant to realize his incompetance! I don't know why I'm finding this so funny, Buz takes great pride and pleasure in his wild parody of science and the rest of us just tear our hair out! Go ahead and laugh, Ifen. Now that you have a chorus of loosers with you, it's fun, isn't it? THE TRUTH IS THAT THE REASON YOU AND SOME OTHER SORE HEADED LOOSERS IN DEBATE ARE TEARING YOUR HAIR OUT IS BECAUSE YOU'VE LOST THE DEBATE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. This message has been edited by buzsaw, 12-12-2004 09:02 PM
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 125 of 147 (167539)
12-12-2004 9:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 121 by lfen
12-12-2004 7:26 PM
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Re: On topic.
I think you're quite right. The most likely end to the absurdity is that Buz will declare that he's won. He'll be happy and never, ever realize what happened. AbE OOOOOOPS. Too late. Teach me to go pour some coffee while trying to respond. This message has been edited by jar, 12-12-2004 09:04 PM
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 126 of 147 (167541)
12-12-2004 9:11 PM
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There is an interesting premise hidden in all of this
If GOD was subject to the 2 nd. Law of Thermodynamics then he would certainly not be all powerful. If, as Genesis said, he rested on the seventh day, then it appears he is subject to the 2 nd. Law of Thermodynamics and waited for energy from some other outside source to trickle down to him. So based on that, I would have to say that anyone that takes the Genesis account literally cannot logically believe in an all powerful GOD and that they must believe in some more powerful energy source. Or that it's an open system and the Laws don't apply.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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lfen
Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: 06-24-2004
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Message 127 of 147 (167546)
12-12-2004 9:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 125 by jar
12-12-2004 9:03 PM
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Re: On topic.
Yeah, but Jar, you went on to continue trying to educate him!!!????? Oh, well, guess you haven't gotten enough  At least if's hilarity, right? lfen
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Buzsaw
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Message 128 of 147 (167557)
12-12-2004 10:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 127 by lfen
12-12-2004 9:31 PM
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Re: On topic.
Yeah, but Jar, you went on to continue trying to educate him!!!????? Oh, well, guess you haven't gotten enough At least if's hilarity, right? lfen Ifen, maboy/girl, It'd be nice if you'd grow up to stop acting bratish. I think your mother's calling you.
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mikehager
Member (Idle past 6488 days) Posts: 534 Joined: 09-02-2004
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Message 129 of 147 (167576)
12-12-2004 11:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 124 by Buzsaw
12-12-2004 9:00 PM
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Re: POOR LOOSERS TURNING NASTY!!
"Loser" has only one "O". Loser.
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Buzsaw
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Message 130 of 147 (167579)
12-13-2004 12:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 129 by mikehager
12-12-2004 11:59 PM
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Thanks Mike.
Thanks, Mike, and congratulations. You've finally contributed something substantive to the thread. 
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Buzsaw
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Message 131 of 147 (167581)
12-13-2004 12:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 126 by jar
12-12-2004 9:11 PM
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Re: There is an interesting premise hidden in all of this
If GOD was subject to the 2nd. Law of Thermodynamics then he would certainly not be all powerful. If, as Genesis said, he rested on the seventh day, then it appears he is subject to the 2nd. Law of Thermodynamics and waited for energy from some other outside source to trickle down to him. So based on that, I would have to say that anyone that takes the Genesis account literally cannot logically believe in an all powerful GOD and that they must believe in some more powerful energy source.
Or that it's an open system and the Laws don't apply. I suggest you read posts 86 and the last sentence in 94 where I've addressed this.
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General Nazort
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Message 132 of 147 (167587)
12-13-2004 1:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 121 by lfen
12-12-2004 7:26 PM
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Re: On topic.
I don't know why I'm finding this so funny, Buz takes great pride and pleasure in his wild parody of science and the rest of us just tear our hair out! I'm finding this scenario hilarious. Brad appears to know sciences but insists on writing incomphrehensive turgid parody? of some sort of writing. Buz writes straight forward English it's just that it's raving nonsense. Buz annoys more people than Brad simply because at first blush it looks like he is discussing something. Might as well laugh as tear one's hair out over the inevitable. I imagine Buz is a decent person but I'm not going to try and teach him science it just isn't going to take. I must agree, not sure whether to laugh or cry.
If you say there no absolutes, I ask you, are you absolutely sure?
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General Nazort
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Message 133 of 147 (167588)
12-13-2004 1:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 95 by Buzsaw
12-12-2004 10:52 AM
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Re: Oh dear!
But by definition of universe, God does not exist outside of the universe. Since it is observed that the td laws seem to prevail in the area of the universe observable to us, it would make sense that all levels of life and matter which we believe to be present in the universe would likely satisfy these observable laws. Yes you've explained that. I am asking about the natural world, not the universe. Why should God have to follow natural laws if he is supernatural and created the natural world?
If you say there no absolutes, I ask you, are you absolutely sure?
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lfen
Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: 06-24-2004
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Re: On topic.
I must agree, not sure whether to laugh or cry. Definitely laugh. From what Buz tells us he has a good life and is a decent person. What compels him to try to understand science based on looking up definitions in the dictionary is utterly beyond me, but really no harm is done as long as he's not allowed to teach science anywhere. lfen
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17825 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.2
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Message 135 of 147 (167596)
12-13-2004 2:30 AM
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Reply to: Message 116 by Buzsaw
12-12-2004 5:38 PM
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Re: On topic.
Well Buz, since it seems we're talking about your own made-up Bible again can we please have the information we require. I've told you several times that we need the numbers, and you have not provided them. They are NOT in the text of the real Bible. If you've not learnt that then this thread has been a waste of time even for you.
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