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General Nazort
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Message 16 of 18 (175257)
01-09-2005 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
01-03-2005 2:08 PM


I disagree that the sin of David was threatening to break the promise God made to Abraham. First of all the description of Abraham's descendents of as numerous as the stars in the sky or grains of sand is obviously a figure of speech and not an exact number. Therefore you can't take it literally and say that X amount of people would fulfill or not fulfill it.
Plus, God's promise was to Abraham's DESCENDENTS... a single census fails to take into account the people of future generations. These cannot be counted, and there is therefore no threat to this so called "breaking" of God's promise.
I always saw David's sin as that of placing his trust in himself and his army and not in God. By taking a census he was trying to find out how many fighting men he had and how powerful his army could be, instead of placing his trust in God for his military success. A parallel can be seem in the story of Gideon in Judges 7 - God makes Mideon take only a handful of men to fight so that they will know for sure the victory was because of God and not of their own strength.

If you say there no absolutes, I ask you, are you absolutely sure?

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Message 17 of 18 (175387)
01-10-2005 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by macaroniandcheese
01-09-2005 12:08 PM


Re: Problems with a Census
yeah, that was almost a really good idea too.

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Zachariah
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Message 18 of 18 (180101)
01-24-2005 2:42 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by General Nazort
01-09-2005 3:01 PM


Very well said General. -Z

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