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Message 37 of 391 (710753)
11-10-2013 9:38 AM
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11-10-2013 9:27 AM


Re: Prayer: Listening, Talking, or Both?
An attorney by definition, by the way, is not a good resource when looking for the truth of a matter. An attorney is trained to support the clients position and to present only that evidence that supports the clients position.

Also, as you might know, we do not debate by video links. If there is some supporting evidence presented then bring it here so it can be discussed.


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Message 39 of 391 (710758)
11-10-2013 11:00 AM
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Re: Prayer: Listening, Talking, or Both?
Well yes, there are methods of determining not actual authorship but rather whether or not the author could possibly the purported author. Some things used as indicators would be language style, indicators of original language, mention of things that would have been after the purported author would have been dead, anachronisms. If we look at early copies of the three books purported to be by a "John" we can see that they were three different authors and several editors or redactors.

We can also be pretty sure of intent as well. For example the author of the Gospel of John had the intent of completely revising the thrust and nature of the Jesus character found in the synoptic Gospels. Like wise epistles attributed to Paul did have specific intent just as the intent of any interoffice memo. Other examples of intent would be the rationalization that Jesus was not going to return in the lifetime of the disciples or even the apostles and so the intent was to try to explain away the discrepancy.

This is not just a matter of the New Testament, it is also common to Old Testament stories as well.


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Message 42 of 391 (710764)
11-10-2013 3:38 PM
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11-10-2013 3:32 PM


Re: Prayer: Listening, Talking, or Both?
Too funny.

You do know that I did not say they were trained liars, simply that by profession they are biased.

Why I've even known lawyers I'd be seen with in public although back when I was in retail we did have a company rule that we did not do business with doctors or lawyers.


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Message 44 of 391 (710769)
11-10-2013 5:46 PM
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11-10-2013 4:57 PM


Re: Prayer: Listening, Talking, or Both?
You are free to hold that belief.

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Message 51 of 391 (710883)
11-12-2013 8:39 AM
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11-11-2013 10:52 PM


Re: Doubt is healthy...keep doubting
While it is certainly possible that your intellect has fallen and you can't get it up, what makes you think someone else intellect has fallen?

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Message 56 of 391 (710951)
11-13-2013 9:05 AM
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11-13-2013 8:53 AM


Re: Belief and Sanity
Respect should be earned not given.

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Message 58 of 391 (710954)
11-13-2013 9:23 AM
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11-13-2013 9:17 AM


Re: Belief and Sanity
I know that is what you believe but you do not and cannot know.

BUT what does that have to do with respect being earned?


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Message 64 of 391 (711161)
11-15-2013 11:34 AM
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11-15-2013 8:57 AM


Re: Belief and Sanity
Phat writes:

One of the most important lessons that any human can learn is humility and obedience...not to a human con man but to a Creator Who knows what is the better choice.

That is one of the more frightening things you have ever said.

How do you know that the person you are obeying really is not a human con man but a Creator Who knows what is the better choice?


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Message 66 of 391 (711166)
11-15-2013 11:48 AM
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11-15-2013 11:45 AM


Re: Belief and Sanity
Constantly. I ask often "What should I do?"

But then I test the answer using logic, reason and reality.

How do you know that the person you are obeying really is not a human con man but a Creator Who knows what is the better choice?


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Message 71 of 391 (711272)
11-16-2013 4:27 PM
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11-16-2013 3:53 PM


Re: Belief and Sanity
How do you know that the person you are obeying really is not a human con man but a Creator Who knows what is the better choice?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 74 of 391 (711311)
11-17-2013 9:38 AM
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11-16-2013 11:41 PM


Re: Belief and Sanity
Would we dare con ourselves??

Of course we dare con our selves and in fact it is very common. (S)He is the perfect person for me. (S)He completes me. I know I'm saved. I know Jesus will forgive me.


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Message 77 of 391 (712202)
11-28-2013 8:26 PM
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11-28-2013 7:08 PM


Re: Belief and Sanity
Ah, the Synoptic Jesus and not the John/Paul Jesus. Got it.

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Message 79 of 391 (712217)
11-29-2013 8:59 AM
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11-29-2013 5:00 AM


Re: Belief and Sanity
I know that you say that but is that what the stories say?

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Message 88 of 391 (884470)
02-21-2021 12:14 PM
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02-21-2021 10:49 AM


Re: Charismatic Chaos Revisited
Especially when the Snake-Oil salesman presents a to-buy list even before offering ANYTHING of substance.

Just another example of the worthlessness of the Christian Apologist.


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Message 131 of 391 (884739)
03-06-2021 10:34 AM
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03-06-2021 9:52 AM


Re: Liberal Censorship. The Civil War Is Real
LOL

Liberal censorship.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


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