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Dr Jack
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Message 11 of 183 (51076)
08-19-2003 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by truthlover
08-19-2003 8:45 AM


The trouble, Truthlover, is that few of us have even a basic grounding in hebrew (or I extrapolate from myself, a great desire to acquire such), thus when Rrhain asserts some hebrew word means so-and-so in his authorative style, we naturally accept it as a tentative truth.
Now, of course, we have your equally authorative seeming reply. Picking an interpretation feels more like picking sides in a football match than anything else. I think I find your side more convincing for now, but I have no actual knowledge on which to chose.

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Dr Jack
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Message 14 of 183 (51089)
08-19-2003 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by crashfrog
08-19-2003 11:51 AM


2) He made humans with a gay gene?
That's far from proven, Crashfrog.

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Dr Jack
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Message 18 of 183 (51097)
08-19-2003 12:20 PM
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08-19-2003 12:14 PM


Identical twins who are separated at birth, where one is gay, the other displays a higher than average chance of being gay, too, indicating a genetic component.
I am not A Christian, please check who you are replying to more carefully. edit: ah, I see you spotted that one.
A genetic component to sexual preference and a 'gay gene' are very different ideas. I would be astonished if there wasn't a genetic component to sexual preference; I would be equally amazed if there was a gene that made you gay. The selective pressure against a 'gay gene' would be huge.
Edit again: In any case this is drifting rather off topic, I think if you wish to discuss this further we should take it to a new topic. Yes?
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Dr Jack
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Message 44 of 183 (51379)
08-20-2003 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by A_Christian
08-20-2003 11:30 AM


A Christian, why don't you just sit down, have a nice cup of tea and take a deep breath before posting anymore utterly mindless drivel.
Where do you loonies get your ideas? How do you make it across that chasm of total illogic between 'we think homosexuality probably has a genetic element' to 'we think young boys should be predated by older men, and should be having sex by 15'?

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Dr Jack
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Message 63 of 183 (51475)
08-21-2003 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by A_Christian
08-20-2003 2:12 PM


You need to remember what it was like being an adolescent and going through puberty. You need to set aside the attitude and discover a little common sense.
I fully agree, adolescence is hard in our society. Which is exactly why ignorant bigots such as yourself should shut up and let people understand themselves without being told their evil because they jerk off to pictures Johnny Depp, rather than the bra section of Kay's catalogue. (Or vice-versa for those of the female persuasion.)
As to common sense, well I'd say letting folk choose their lifestyle any way they like so as long as they ain't harming others is common sense. Hell, with the overpopulation problems the world has, a few more gays might help out.
Your original statement was ignorant, stupid and illogical. There is exactly zero connection between supporting homosexuals, and supporting the likes of NAMBLA. That's like saying that supporting heterosexuality is like endorsing dad's that rape their daughters.
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Dr Jack
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Message 66 of 183 (51492)
08-21-2003 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Trump won
08-21-2003 9:40 AM


Please explain how that is a fact?
Threads work better if you read them, MessanjaH.

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Message 148 of 183 (52026)
08-24-2003 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Rrhain
08-22-2003 4:06 AM


quote:
A_Christian writes:
Maybe it is different in England. Have the countries that endorce Homosexuality become more spritual and godly since doing so?
Rrhain writes:
It would seem so. They don't have nearly the level of problems that we do in this country. They have lower levels of crime, lower levels of teen pregnancy, lower levels of abortion, lower levels of divorce, and more church attendance.

Bit confused why my country is being cited as endorcing homosexuality, we (unfortunately) don't allow gay marriages, and unlike the american branch of the CoE our's shouted down the appointment of a gay bishop.
On to the point. Actually, Rrhain, divorce rates are higher in England than in America. But let's not forget that it's Atheists who have the lowest divorce rate of any religious grouping in the USA.

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