homosexuality and the Bible

Hi A_Christian.Can I just draw your attention to the Forum Rules and in particular Guideline Four: Bare assertions on controversial points should be avoided by providing supporting evidence or argument. Once challenged, support for any assertion should be provided. In the future could you post supporting evidence for your argument, in this case that Homosexuality is a deviation from what GOD created (which is male & female')In this particular instance the posting of your unsupported assertion has resulted in three replies that in no way contribute to the progression of discusssion mentioned in the topic title. Effectively, what happened is that we have one well thought out and well articulated post by Truthlover and all subsequent posts have nothing to do with what Truthlover wishes to discuss.A_Christian, could you please try to support your arguments in future and try not to simply post what some people may consider to be nothing more than sermon.The rest of you guys, if you wish to discuss A_Christian's recreational activities, whether natal or not, please open another thread and do it there.Many Thanks! [This message has been edited by AdminBrian, 08-19-2003]

Hi Guys,We have drifted off topic a bit, although you could argue that the discussion is about God making his creation complete with a gay gene, Truthlover specifically named his thread 'Homosexuality AND the Bible.The disucssion is very interesting and one that I think deserves a thread of its own, if one of you could start it off I would appreciate it.I feel that a lot of people will be clicking on this thread and be disappointed that in a thread with over 20 posts in it, only about 4 or 5 actually are directly related to the topic title.Thanks!

Hi Crash,Yes I agree, but I think that the scientific side of this debate is very interesting and deserves a thread of its own. I think that the posts so far that discuss the scientific side of things will no doubt lead to a more detailed discussion and that a separate thread would make easier reading.Cheers!

Hi A_Christian,I think we all know your stance on homosexuality so could you tone down the 'gay bashing' and try and be a bit more senstive with your choice of words? All of the things you say about homosexuality can be said in a less offensive way and, whether you like it or not, homosexuals are real people with real feelings, so your words may be hurting a lot of very sincere and decent people.You might want to start including the phrase 'some homosexuals' rather than making sweeping generalisations. Also, you may like to start saying 'I believe that...' as in, 'I believe that homosexuality attempts to bring marriage down to its level' rather than stating an absolute.If I were to say that Christians do not believe in the Trinity then you would quite rightly be upset and point out that I was incorrect. True I am incorrect to state that all Christians do not believe in the Trinity, but it is true that some Christians do not believe in the Trinity.In the same way, old homosexual men do not prey on teenage boys, perhaps a few might do that, but to say that they all do is incorrect.Please can you be a bit more selective with your choice of words?Many Thanks.AdminBrian

Nope, it counts against anyone who is generalising and persistently being offensive to a group or an individual. As I have said on another thread, freedom of speech is a human right that comes with responsibilities, you seem unaware of this.I have ONLY asked you to try and be a bit more tactful, a bit more selective with your choice of words. You can say virtually the same things as you have been saying but in a more sensitive manner. I am sorry if you do not have the vocabulary to do this but at least try. So why continually offend the sinner then? Could you explain this for me please? See Matthew 7:1-5 again!AdminBrian

Hi AC, I am afraid there is, by making sweeping generalisations with something such as 'Homosexuals recruit the young and sin is sin.' you could have changed that to ' SOME homosexuals recruit the young.' But to claim that all homosexuals recruit the young is absurd You cannot make generalisations like this.This is particularly offensive: Try to be a little more eloquent with your posts, thats all I am asking. Nope, I am perfectly happy for you to say what you want, within reason. All I have asked you to do is to try and be a bit more tactful with your comments, choose your words a bit more carefully, the meaning of statement can remain clear without the acidic tinge. Try using some of Jesus' sound teachings as well then. I see no evidence of this so try a little harder please. What specifically do you have an objection to?AdminBrian

For this and other violations of the forum rules A_Christian is having a break from posting.Whether he returns depends on his agreeing to abide by the rules.AdminBrian