What is: The Gospel According To You?

i would say i based it on a common question when people make such a statement, what about people who have not heard of christianity, are they doomed, becuase they don't know about it?if we are judged based on our knowlege then what of those without it?if anything we should only be judged on what we do in life not whether we follow the right people or religion i agree with this but i'm not sure your first statement has much to do with this one, i am asking about people who are not knowlegeable at all, not people who know but are turned from something because of an outside force i think he should go to hell for abuse really, scarring of someoneThis message has been edited by ReverendDG, 04-12-2006 02:51 PM

Something like that. I don't remember if was this thread or some others that I am currently speaking on the same subject, but to me it all comes down to the Holy Spirit.Before Jesus, there was very few people righteous enough before God to be filled with the Spirit. If you wanted to be forgiven, you had to go to a temple and make a sacrifice.After Jesus died for us, he sent the Holy Spirit for all of us. At that time to, God made a covenant with us, and he put his laws on the minds and hearts of everyone.What does that all mean?I think I can only really speak for myself with authority, and I know what is right in my heart, and I can see the times in my life when I was decieved, and I was denying the truth to resound in me.The bible says all sins will be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Spirit. When you deny the truth that is inside you, then you blasphemy the Spirit IMO. That is denying Jesus, and what He did for us.John 3:16-21 explains it. If you don't know the "name" Jesus, you will know the Spirit, the light, and you can choose to live by this light or not.I can't make excuses for people and their behavoirs, only my own. This is how I see it. This was all confirmed to my by God in my heart, when I had an encounter with the Holy Spirit in a powerful way.This doesn't make me any better than anyone else. But I do know it is my job to share it with everyone I meet, as I wish for all to feel the same joy I did on that day, and to this day. I hope I was able to answer that question with my preceeding statement.I have also meet with people from Africa who meet with Angels, and had no previous knowledge of Christianity, or Jesus. These Angels told the person they would be a minister at age 4. He is now in his 30's and is a minister.Helen Keller too. I believe she knew about Jesus before they could explain it to her. This is why you and I aren't God.To me, to be a Christian, is to look at people the way God looks at them. Who knows the actual reasons why the priest did what he did. There is obviously something wrong. Something that was either passed down to him, or passed along to him. This is my understanding of the dominoe effect of the fall, and how it affects the whole human race. This is why to me, the concept of the fall sounds reasonable.But in no way am I saying that this person should not pay for what he did. We all pay for our sins, except at the moment we are trying to get into heaven, then we are forgiven. Also when we are trying to talk with God, we are forgiven. But the "our father" prayer says we must forgive to be forgiven.

The above addressed to Faith in another thread. The above from your last post on this thread Hmmm. When an attempt was made in this thread to interrogate your consistancy (as opposed to your insistancy - of which there can be no serious doubt at this stage) and to probe fullness, you wriggled away with 'might' on the issue of "what if no forgiveness". You claim to know what forgiveness achieves (although you never took the opportunity to explain how you arrived at this conclusion) whilst at the same time not knowing what would happen without forgiveness.In short, your gospel appears to be woefully short on anything but bald statement. This impression was has been reinforced by a non-link made between your notion that "righteousness comes from right behaviour" and the supporting biblical example posed in the Romans 2 passage: which doesn't talk either about right behaviour (instead it talks of deeds of the law) or righteousness (instead it talks of justification). An attempt was made to probe the INconsistancy of this you wiggled away with this... also from your last post on this thread.What is full and consistant in your dealings w.r.t. the gospel on this thread is the measure in which your insistance on Gospel-highlights is inversely matched by your lack of willingness to expose its structure to examination. If you've got light Jar, it lies swaddled in a lead-lined bushel.I write this less in the hope that you will actually stand and explain (with compelling, non-conflicting-with-other-quotemined scripture or with reasoned dissecting as to how the mechansim of your gospel is supposed to work) and more in the hope that people who would take the time to read through the posts will remember your form when they next read the likes of: This message has been edited by iano, 13-Apr-2006 12:17 AM

LOLNo problem iano.The record is here, and all over EvC. The audience will decide whether I have supported explaining what the Gospel means to me.

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Please keep other threads out of this one. Jar was referring to the science fora where evidence is necessary to back up an assertion. In the faith and belief fora your personal faith and/or belief is the "evidence" generally used.

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I would disagree. When one is purporting to back up ones position using reasoned argument whether biblically made or otherwise then ones assertions cannot simply rely on faith/belief. You might say "I believe the bible is the word of God" but when you say "this section of the bible supports this notion" then you are as locked into having your evidence support your position as you are in any science thread.

I like seeing "LOL". I'm getting a sense as to when they appear

Its all Faith and Belief, Iano. There is no science about it.

I don't believe you Phat.

Its not important whether or not you believe me. What is important, for all of us, is that we believe ourselves

I don't believe that either.(your missing the point of my last post Phat, to whit. It is all belief true, but that is not the basis on which we prosecute certain Faith&Belief discussions which use reason and logic and evidence within the confines the the system. Belief is the boundary within which we operate. Not an escape hatch for any behaviour at all.If you don't believe that, then don't debate on those terms.)

Let me ask you somethings, Iano....just to clear the air. (Remember that I am not taking any side...I am just stepping in to understand you)1) You passionately wish to emphasize a point here. In twenty words or less, what is your point?2) In a Faith/Belief forum, all points are valid. (Thats MY point.)

Yes, but ones evidence in a Faith/Belief forum can be anything that they so choose to present. Often, some of us simply allow our personalities become our evidence.This is kosher and is allowable.

1. Give me the post number of the point you want me to explain. I'm making (or endeavouring to make) various points. I'll explain it in 20 words or less.2. All points might be valid but what use is 'valid' in debate? The point 1+1=3 is valid but it is not consistant, accurate, coherent etc. Valid just don't do it for me.

The Gospel according to iano (gone mad)Righteous comes tru tithing 10% of my wages to the 3rd charity down the list that I pick out of the phone book. Evidence?"I am the way and the truth and the light, no one comes to the father except through me"It might be kosher but it will attract precisely the same ridicule as such codswallop would attract on a science thread. So what is the effectual difffernce in reasoned F&B debates. I mean in effect - not in principle