former speed of light

While some might quibble with the injection of the undefined term Spiritual, it is becoming increasingly likely that there was some seperation somewhere very shortly after creation. During the first few moments of the BB, somewhere around 14,000,000,000 years ago, it is doubtful that light existed.So I would say that it is likely impossible for the light to have been traveling longer than 14,000,000,000 years.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Go GODleaves us two records.One has been copied, translated, modified, interpreted, vetted, parts added, parts taken out. It is written by plain old people, is full of inconsistencies and outright errors.The other is the physical universe. It's there, written directly by GOD.You actually believe the Bible over the one that GOD wrote himself? Amazing.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Former speed of light.Former speed of light.So far you have presented no information, evidence, or even suggestion that might support that there is any second kind of light, much less one that is faster or slower.Zip. Zero. Nada. Nyet. Nothing.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

do you see stars?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

The the light that you see, the old slow light from those stars, has been traveling for some time? Right?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Do you see the stars?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So the light you see is the light that left the star billions of years ago. Agreed so far?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Sorry, but you better show a model for that.What you are seeing is normal physical world light. Plain old slow light. You can't show any of that spiritual fast light and even if it existed, by your own arguments it's long gone past us.If you see it, it got here. Billions and billions of years.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

But that only applies up to the split and only for your hypothetical pixie dust light. The plain old physical light is taking billions and billions of years to get to us.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

And that is where your suppositions fall apart.You have finally proven them false.You say Okay. Then up to the very instant of the alleged seperation, all the light emmited by the star reaches the Earth the very moment it is first emitted. Time from F to Earth = 0. So unless the universe is greater than 1 billion years old, none of the light from that star will have reached the Earth yet.If your theory were true we would have had a totally bright sky before seperation (light from all stars hitting us immediately) and a totally black sky immediately after seperation.The only stars we would see in the sky today would be those within 6000 light years of the Earth. Every day, new stars would pop into the sky as the old slow light finally got to us.However, looking at history, there have only been a few new stars show up and their appearance has been a big enough event, and so unusual, that they have been noted. Look up the origin of the word Nova.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You said the time of travel of your alleged light was 0.Let's follow two photons, the last photon before the change and the first photon after the change. We will call the former Fred and the latter George.Fred (the Spiritual photon) is created and in zero seconds is at earth.George (the normal photon) begins his journey to earth and will arrive 1 billion years later.During that billion years, no light from the star will reach the earth. The sky will be dark. One billion years after the change, the star will suddenly appear. And it will suddenly appear as a new, normal star.Frankly, that didn't happen. It is the kind of thing people notice and record and we have not had a steady stream of stars suddenly popping into view.In addition. You said that the change happened about 6000 years ago.If your theory were true, we would see no stars that were more than 6000 light years away.Again, that is false. We do see stars that are more than 6000 light years away.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Still would not fill the gap.Let's revisit his example.Last photon before change gets here soon after the change. Fill in any speed you want.Next photon after change takes 1 billion years to get here.You still end up with the same scenario. All the stars wink out between the time the last fast photon gets here and the first slow photon gets here.To get rid of the gap the speed of the fast photon must equal the speed of the slow photon. Any other scenario leaves a gap where no light from the star reaches the earth.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Well take Prophesies over to the Prophesies fullfilled thread. Everyone has been waiting for even one example of one over there.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You still have failed miserably to explain seeing the light from the star that is one billion light years away.Unless you can explain that one you got nothing here just as in the other threads.So let's stick to just that one. How can we see lights from any star that is more than 6000 light years away?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Wrong. Please explain the mechanics. This should be fun.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion