iano writes:
You say you don't like the concept of spiritual salvation. Wouldn't you like to be saved from the consequences of all the wrongdoing you've done that has never been and never will be punished in an earthly setting? Perhaps you take comfort in the belief that the grave will cause that debt to be written off for good? That that wrongdoing will get off scot-free?
I don't confuse selfish desire with the ability to alter reality. You offer the concept as though your, my, or anyone's preference for it has some bearing on it being true. Perhaps you think if we agree that we want it enough it will actually come to be.
iano writes:
Isn't this a little hypocritical: to diss a system in which all wrongdoing will be punished in favor of a system where your wrongdoing simply evaporates into the air?
Isn't it a little bit insane to advocate a system based on your hopes and preferences rather than fact? Claiming that your god will judge people in some afterlife is, like most other aspects of religion, a faith-based claim.
What do you think carries more of a discouragement against murder, the penalty of hanging from the neck until dead, or the threat that "my unicorn will bite you *so* hard at some later date"?
iano writes:
Or they can ask God for some sign in the matter. If God gives no sign...
Sweet, how about we just do that to solve the debate? Put all your religious behaviors on hold until God gives you a sign. Or would that be testing God, something you are not supposed to do?
Seems like we are back to our god-given imagination; oh wait, you prefer "conscience" because that sounds better than claiming your personal feelings are backed by cosmic power.