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NosyNed
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Message 179 of 460 (150550)
10-17-2004 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by mike the wiz
10-17-2004 6:25 PM


Remember - it's A and B that count!
So Mike since there is no one (or near enough to no one) who follow Christs teachings very well does that mean that there are effectivly no Christians?
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Message 181 of 460 (150600)
10-18-2004 12:42 AM
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10-17-2004 7:27 PM


Contradictory
Ok, so we have it that murderers are, by definition, not Christian. That leaves out Hitler then for sure.

I guess it leaves out the IRA and the protestant gangs too. The witch hunters are left out then as well, right?

The abortion clinic bombers are also, by definition, not Christian then too, right?

How about those who commit adultory? Are they on the Christian side of the line or not?


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Message 192 of 460 (150790)
10-18-2004 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by Dan Carroll
10-18-2004 11:46 AM


I was tempted when he did that before
The "fact" of the probability would be interesting if demonstrated.

Too bad it hasn't been done.

Mike, would you open a separate thread on the topic so you can show the calculations?

(added by edit}

There is a new thread proposed to keep this one on topic. That statment has been made by many. They can all use that other thread to support the claim.

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Message 197 of 460 (150808)
10-18-2004 2:56 PM
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10-18-2004 10:47 AM


Theft?
So if adultory is ongoing then the person isn't a Christian. Ok.

What about if they steal something? Are the not a Christian then? When they stop stealing are they a Christian again? It is turned on and off is it?

than what one isn't.

No I think you were saying that so-and-so IS NOT a Christian because they did such and such which is not in line with Christ's teachings.


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Message 205 of 460 (175361)
01-10-2005 12:55 AM
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10-19-2004 12:13 AM


New thread on probability
I never did create that ( or have forgotten).

I twas to be a thread where Mike could show how the probability of life arising can be calculated so he can back up his assertion that it is too improbable.

There didn't seem to be any more interest. If there is I will create the thread (or find one - it has been done before)

ABE
Abiogenisis by the Numbers would be a place where it is on topic, I think.

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