Sorry' I haven't read the whole thread. I'll just give my impressions.
Where I was raized, in a Calvinist Church, I was told I was either pre-destined to be saved or else pre-destined to just burn forever. How was I supposed to know that I was pre-destined to be saved? I would just "know" I was saved, if I believed.
I mean, even if I lead the life of the Pope, it didn't matter, he's not pre-destined to be saved. Even if I murdered hundreds of people, and I was pre-destined, I would repent sometime between now and my death-bed and be saved. All pre-destined and part of some mysterious plan. So absolutely circular and so ridiculous. But, but, but, He loves everyone soooo much!
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