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Author Topic:   Who can be saved? A Christian perspective
Boof
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Message 435 of 460 (812599)
06-18-2017 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 434 by Faith
06-17-2017 8:20 AM


Re: Salvation is far more than a free pass
True science is useful, but there is nothing whatever about the vaporings about the distant past, either the biological past or the geological past, that is useful at all....

You do realise that the radiometric dating that you so readily hand wave away is widely used in the exploration for mineral deposits? But maybe all that copper in your computer is not useful at all...


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Boof
Member (Idle past 698 days)
Posts: 97
From: Australia
Joined: 08-02-2010


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Message 449 of 460 (813079)
06-22-2017 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 437 by Faith
06-18-2017 7:27 AM


Re: Side trip on the usefulness of the ToE and OE
As I understand it, practically speaking the discovery of such mineral deposits involves the identification of the relevant rock associated with the relevant time period, which is more about physical identification than time and doesn't really require dating beyond that identification. If it occurs in, say, a rock identified as Triassic, all that's necessary is recognizing the rock called Triassic. I could probably do this myself without having a clue about its age.

So using your super sleuthing geology skills how do you identify which granite intrusions are Mesoproterozoic and which are not?

In parts of southern Australia almost all the large copper deposits are hosted in igneous rocks aged around 1590 Million Years old. Yet there are younger granites and volcanics which are mineralogically, and texturally very similar. These are barren. Which is why major multinational mining companies spend money on radiometric dating, and indeed often keep the results confidential to give themselves a competitive advantage.

So please withdraw your comment about 'true science'.


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Boof
Member (Idle past 698 days)
Posts: 97
From: Australia
Joined: 08-02-2010


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Message 455 of 460 (813300)
06-25-2017 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 454 by Faith
06-24-2017 10:01 AM


Re: Side trip on the usefulness of the ToE and OE
... but I'm afraid that doesn't do it for me. I don't know what sort of evidence might be mustered in this case, but your statement alone isn't enough.

Well that's easy to answer - no scientific evidence will ever be enough for you Faith. Even when the evidence against your views becomes overwhelming your response is to say that you can't explain why but you know that it's wrong.

But I'm not looking for any 'Eureka moment' from you, I just want you (and other creationists) to stop saying ridiculous things like:

True science is useful, but there is nothing whatever about the vaporings about the distant past, either the biological past or the geological past, that is useful at all....

Seem fair?
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