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Author Topic:   Who can be saved? A Christian perspective
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Message 301 of 460 (532448)
10-23-2009 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by New Cat's Eye
10-23-2009 12:49 PM


Re: What Came First? Belief Or Evidence?
To me, this seems to make the action what is important and not the faith. But Iano is a salvation by fiath guy so I looking for clarification.

This is why I feel I'm running in circles with him. On one post, he claims as you quote him here, saying as long as someone agrees with God's morality, whether they actually believe in him or not, they're able to go to heaven.

But when I ask if that's what he means, he says no, and says something that implies you have to actually believe in god to get to heaven. I think he's experiencing some cognitive dissonance between the two positions, since one implies that the only people who go to hell are the ones who have mental illnesses and should probably not be punished for such, and on the other hand, having good people go to hell simply for not having been given enough evidence to convince them of god's existence; and in either case still wanting to call god a "good" being.


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