Jar's belief statement- Part 2

You may be right. It may have been like a gift to me because I'm so wonderful. After all, I was glad the stump was gone. It would be rather difficult to remove a stump with a shovel when one is drunk. Yes, I am sober--dangerously sober. If she reared a car into this stump which was thirty feet away from the driveway, then SHE must have been drunk out of her mind. She would have had to have been so at about 10:00 am because it would taken that long to get all that done by the time I got home.I'll go with theory #1.

Case closed.

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No, it wasn't thrilling, your unbelievable.

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You said that you got chills.That is exciting, that is thrilling.

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If I hadn't experienced what I did, then the thought wouldn't have crossed my mind.

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Right. The coincidence gave you the woo-woo thrill.

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Go *f* yourself, for trying to lay some kind of guilt trip on me.

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Hey, I'm not the one casually talking about the poor guy being possessed by evil "spirits of murder" as if there was nothing anybody could do about it.

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He was getting help. It was probably the poor help that contributed to his death. There are legal proceedings concerning that matter.

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Oh, so he WAS getting help? Medical help?Doesn't that make your case for the woo-woo evil spirits a lot weaker?Maybe the doctor who was treating him was posessed by "spirits of malpractice".

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Hvae you ever had social services called on you?
It's not a pleasant experience.

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More unpleasant that killing yourself, rat?

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My whole life, I never believed in spirits, or the bogeyman. I am aware of these things now. There is no way to prove them, and I do not take it as concrete, but I am aware of the possibility of a spiritual world out there. It is this awareness that gives me an advantage in life.

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In other words, I am open minded, of which you have claimed I am not. You have your mind shut, so your safe.

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You are not open minded; you are credulous. You are gullible.

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I found it extremely coinsidental that in my 41 years alive the thought of suicide never even crossed my mind, and the next day after it happens, my nieghbor commits suicide.

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Yup. Big coincidence....so why is this coincidence meaningful?

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Where the thought even came from, or why the feeling I got even came to my mind remains unexplained to me.

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You had a bad day, as you explained. You were feeling down about all of the things that were going badly in your life. That happens to everybody at some time or another, pretty much.

Or, your wife or somebody had it removed and isn't letting on just so they can mess with your brain.

No, I think it's something they did because I'm so wonderful.Since joining evc, I've learned the value of boasting. I always thought it was ill-mannered, but obviously I was raised in a barn.Now I know the rationale of boasting comments. If one boasts, one shows that one loves oneself and one has self-esteem. Now, if you cannot love yourself, you cannot love others. This I have learned here on evc. I ought to have taken a course in Pop Psychology 101, but I failed to do that, and so I learned it belatedly here. Many posters have solemnly affirmed that one must love oneself, and that this indeed is the key to the Golden Rule, and I am doing that now. I hug myself frequently.So I think you will agree that I am making progress.

What a coincidence - so was I. There was no room in the inn.

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The Holiday Inns are very full at that time of year.

Just for the record, not that you were wondering, demons aren't reputed to remove stumps of trees or get very involved in the physical world for that matter.Does your wife consider it a mystery too?

Only if by faith you believe that God took care of that stump somehow.ABE, did you check with the town services? DPW?Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

I love when you tell me how I feel, it's so funny. woo-woo?
Where do you get this stuff? There is nothing casual about what he did, or what I felt. It's down right scary stuff, to be taken very seriously. Whether it's our own minds playing games, or spirits, it's no joke. No it doesn't, it's one of those coinsidence things, that I find hard to explain. That doesn't mean there isn't a perfectly logical explanation for it. If you would have noticed, I don't take myself to seriously when I joked about post-hoc reasoning. That means I am not dead set on what the actual explanation is. It's just the kind of thing that makes you go mmmmm, and keeps me alert.It's not like I saw a spirit, or an angel, or I hear voices. I prayed about it, and basically it was left up to me to decide. Hind sight is 20-20, thanks for nothing. no. It wasn't the thought of commiting suicide to solve my over inflated problems (in my own head) that scared me, it was the vision associated with it that freaked me out. Sorry, I do not believe this originated in my own mind. It lasted about 1-2 seconds, and I have nver even thought of anything remotely close to what I saw, and felt.Whats your hell?Do answer, I know, it's talking to me on the internet for eternity.

Yes, she does. She came home that day, and said, "How did you manage to get rid of that stump?"

You and I are opposites concerning the woo-woo phenomenon.Can we conclude that there are no legitamete mysteries in life that science cannot explain?To you, it is a challenge, for it verifies your own self control.I need self control as well, yet always await a parental figure (such as God) to step in and help me. Perhaps many charismatic Christians are immature.

Who cut down the tree?

I did, some time before. But I didn't dig up that stump.

Immature Christians or immature humans?

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