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Author Topic:   Can God create another God?
johnfolton 
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Message 19 of 224 (480763)
09-06-2008 8:58 AM


You have the triune God that says none were formed before and none will be formed after and that you are his witnesses that he is the first, and the last and beside him God testified that there was no other God formed.
The question is then put more directly and asked is there any other God beside him, and he said SAID yea, there is no other God, I know not any!
It says even them that are called by his name Christians? Let all the nations be gathered together, Let them bring forth their witnesses, and they maybe justified: or let them hear and say, It is truth. akjv Isaiah 43:10-11.
akjv Isaiah 44:6 I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
akjv Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
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johnfolton 
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Message 27 of 224 (480813)
09-06-2008 4:12 PM
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09-06-2008 11:15 AM


My religion argues that, not only can God create another God, but that we are intended to become the Gods that He creates. That brings unity to all the scriptures about “oneness,” and resolves the issue of whether the Trinity is three or one (they are three distinct beings, but are “one” in purpose, as are we when we ally ourselves to their cause).
The question is then put more directly and asked is there any other God "beside him", and he said SAID yea, there is no other God, I know not any!
The Word also uses "before me" was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isaiah 43:10 It also says "beside me" in reference to him being the Saviour.
akjv Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD: and beside me there is no Saviour.
akjv Isaiah 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
Jesus is the vine were the branches however the branches must abide in the vine. Its a free gift as many as recieved Christ, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: akjv john 1:12.
P.S. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him "should not perish", but "have everlasting life". I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

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johnfolton 
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Message 30 of 224 (480818)
09-06-2008 5:07 PM
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09-06-2008 2:52 PM


Re: God and gods
So, even if God did make another God, couldn't this new God just become "one with the original God," and thus, there would be no contradiction to scripture?
It does not say God could not form another God besides himself just that none will be formed. Zechariah 14:5-9.
P.S. After satan is bound peace will reign on earth and the there will be only one LORD, and his name one.

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Message 32 of 224 (480837)
09-06-2008 8:05 PM
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09-06-2008 5:28 PM


Re: God and gods
Zechariah 14 doesn't say anything about the formation of Gods. It talks about a specific day, and clearly says it’s only a single day, and says how, in that day, there shall only be one Lord. It doesn’t say anything about there not being other Lords before or after that day, nor does it say that these other Lords will cease to exist during that day. It could just as easily be interpreted to say that any other Lords would simply no longer be considered Lords on that day.
This thousand year day of the ruling and reigning of Christ since one day to God is 1000 years akjv 2 peter 3:8. You forget about the rapture and those reaped in the first resurrection (the armies of the Lord) reigning with him those thousand years. akjkv revelation 20:4.
And, besides, does "Lord" mean the same as "God"?
akjv Zechariah 14:5 says the Lord and my God will come and the saints with him. rev 19:13-16 calls him the Word of God and King of Kings, and LORD OF LORDS. It also mentions the armies (saints) in heaven following mentioned in Zechariah 14:5.
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Message 40 of 224 (480899)
09-07-2008 2:34 PM
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09-07-2008 1:09 PM


Re: God and gods
In that DAY it says the Saints will be living and reigning with Christ. akjv rev 1:6 akjv rev 20:4
P.S. If the Saints are to be reigning with Christ in that DAY. Christ is still LORD of lords and KING of kings, etc...
Jesus says He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. akjv rev 1:8
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Message 45 of 224 (480946)
09-07-2008 10:42 PM
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09-07-2008 5:59 PM


Re: God and gods
In that DAY it says the Saints will be living and reigning with Christ. akjv rev 1:6 akjv rev 20:4
P.S. If the Saints are to be reigning with Christ in that DAY. Christ is still LORD of lords and KING of kings, etc...
Jesus says He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. akjv rev 1:8
What are you talking about?
It says the kingdoms of this earth have become the kingdoms of the Lord as the seventh angel sounds the trumpet.
The kings of the earth disagree and become food for the birds when the LORD comes down from heaven to do battle. akjv Zechariah 14:5 & akjv rev 19:16-18
P.S. Once the kings of the earth that battle the Lord become bird food you only have the Lord God the Word ruling and reigning with the first resurrected saints the entire earth from Jerusalem.
P.S. Personally lets give thanks to the Lord God Almighty because he willing to take his great power and reign. Surely I come quickly Amen. Even so come Lord Jesus. akjv rev 22:20.
akjv rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
The Word say the kingdoms of this earth have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and his Christ and he shall reign for ever. akjv rev 11:15
When you talk about King think your talking a bit about the virgin birth of the line of David. Let Praise and Worship the Lord God lets hail King Jesus! Immanuel akjv Isa 7:14
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