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Author Topic:   Can God create another God?
gluadys
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Message 12 of 224 (480613)
09-04-2008 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
09-04-2008 12:15 PM


Re: Uncharted Waters
Phat writes:
This question has a lot of uncharted waters. Of course IF we believe that God by definition is greater than our imagination, more complex than we could ever fully describe, and the Creator/originator of us versus our imaginations being the originator of Him---then lets speculate (for it is all we can do)
1) Could God hypothetically create another God who could then vanquish the original? If so, this seems to suggest that it is, in fact, our own imaginations that have the omnipotent speculation.
Its one thing to imagine/write/visualize science fiction. It is quite another thing to speculate the attributes of a God who by definition exceeds the capability or comprehension of our own limited imaginations.
2) As regards the traditional Christian God, all that I have ever been taught about said Deity indicates that there are only two things that said Deity hypothetically cannot do.
  • Lie.
  • Cease to be God.
    Which makes me more confused than ever!
  • And that adds another wrinkle to the question. Can God create another god without ceasing to be god?
    I don't think omnipotence per se really has anything to do with the question. It is more a question into the nature of God. Can God be plural and still be God?

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    gluadys
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    Message 14 of 224 (480735)
    09-05-2008 11:36 PM
    Reply to: Message 13 by Agobot
    09-05-2008 1:47 PM


    Agobot writes:
    Phat writes:
    God could exist and yet not exist at the same exact point in time. God could be One and yet could be an infinite pantheon
    No, I don't think so. If God can commit suicide and cease to exist, he cannot keep on existing at the same time. Otherwise, it will mean that he did not really cease to exist at the point of suicide, and therefore the suicide was illusionary. Which, in turn, means that God cannot commit suicide and so is not omnipotent.
    This, however, gives a meaning to "omnipotent" that was denied in classical philosophy. Omnipotence means the power to do anything possible. Not to be able to do what is logically impossible (e.g. make a four-cornered triangle) is not a sign of lacking omnipotence.
    Some things are logically impossible for God because to do them would mean he would contradict his own nature. Such things do not indicate lack of omnipotence, for God can still do whatever he chooses to do.
    If God is the source of all life and being, his non-existence is a logical impossibility. It would not happen not because God cannot do what he chooses to do, but because that choice is so alien to his nature, it would never present itself.

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