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There is no perfection in this world. Fortunately for us, our founders created the best economic & political system going. It ain't perfect, but it is far superior to all the rest.

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Actually, the US doesn't rank very high in a lot of area when compared to other First World countries.We have a poor ranking in literacy rates, number of citizens incarcerated, homicide and crime rates, infant mortality, number of people getting adequate healthcare, poverty, hunger, and women and minorities represented in the legislature.

Wrong, bigotry implies nothing but hate. Bigotry is racism in action. But if denying and rationalizing away your blanket hatred of Islam justifys your racism then I can understand your statement. What I can not understand is how some Muslim does not kick your ass for your offensive overt comments concerning they're beliefs. It is pointless to attempt to engage in any conversation with a obviously indoctrinated and propagandized individual. The only thing that one can say is that 3000 of 'your countrymen' are dead by the hand of a extremist group. And the OKC federal building was perpitrated by one of your own countrymen. Who has the tunnel vision? Don't bother to reply I am not going to fuel your sad attempt to justify hate.This message has been edited by 1.61803, 07-31-2004 10:05 AM

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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

If you would like your posts read by me, and I might guess a few others please use standard formatting.I started reading the huge letter thing but gave up quickly and just went on to the next post. I'm not going to bother to try to squint and see what's in the yellow and red reverse fields either.On the other hand if you don't want your posts read just keep it up.peace,
lfen

Surprise, beady eyes!!! Islam is an ideology, not a race. Islam has members from many races and ethnicities; from many nations.I do not hate anyone because of his skin color or other cosmetic considerations. My enmity arises from malignant conduct, which arises from a malignant & malicious doctrine set.Islam arrogantly assumes superiority & predestiny to rule the world. It requires its adherents to pledge their lives & fortunes to Jihad for the purpose of actualizing that destiny.That is what Muhammad did when he conqured the Hijaz, besides raping & plundering. That is what the Caliphs did when they conquered North Africa, Southern & Eastern Europe and India.Perhaps you have forgotten that Nasser had a dream of restoring the Caliphate and resuming empire building. Khadaffy shared that dream; so did Saddam Hussein. The primary difference was who each one wanted on the throne."The glory that was Islam" does not refer to culture, education, medicine or science. It refers to military conquest. Islam's frustration is not its economic, educational or social retardation. It is their failure to reconquer Israel and advance toward total world conquest.You need to read between the lines of those grand speeches at the O.I.C. You need to read the Qur`an & Hadith.Islam has one commandment:
Book 14, Number 2635:Narrated Anas ibn Malik:The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have.I suggest that you meditate upon that commandment for a few minutes.This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 07-31-2004 01:46 PMThis message has been edited by Jubela, 07-31-2004 02:15 PM

Depending on how technical you define murder. But certainly killing.
There was the Inquistion. Of course they gave the accused a fair trial after torturing them and then they burned them at the stake.
On the other hand I suppose if it weren't for their selfless efforts we'd be ass deep in witches and unable to progress for all the witchcraft and all.peace,
lfen

You will not find any statement from me claiming American moral superiority. This society has numerous moral failings among its members. Neither have I claimed purity or perfection in our foreign policy.Hundreds died, and many more were wounded at the Embassy and Marine Barracs in Beirut, where the Marines were sent on a fools errand: to save Yassir Arafat from well deserved Justice.Hundreds, and a dozen Americans among them, died in two Embassies in North Africa. Many more were wounded.3000 died, and many more were greviously injured in N.Y.C. & Washington D.C. On that same occasion, my best hope of prosperity was instantly and permanently vaporized. Its perpetrators have openly gloated, and declared their intention to perform similar acts of greater magnitude.So you expect me not to have or express outrage; not to seek to prevent further attrocities; not to speak out. If I did have the financial ability to travel, you may rest assured that your homeland would not be on my itinerary. I am not interested in visiting a nation of bigoted Cretins!

Wow Jubela,I'm so glad Pecos brought you over here, or I would have gone on thinking that that was exactly what Jihad meant! On reflection I don't know why I would have thought that Jimmy Carter a christian would be using arabic words. [ /sarcasm ]I'm starting to roll my eyes. Keep up with this pathetic nonsense and I'll probably just stop read this thread.peace,
lfen

Evidently you overlooked the fact that Christianity experienced reformations. Witch hunts currently occur in polytheistic African societies, not in Christianity.I am not attempting to defend the excesses of the Crusades nor the Inquisition. Those were breaches of, not examples of the teachings of Christ.Islam has not reformed. Islam still engages in the practice of Jihad & the enrichment and empowerment of its Kleptocracy, for which purpose it was created. Islam can not reform; its doctrine is based on the perfect, ultimate & final revelation of Allah's will. To remove the bloodthirsty ayats from the Qur`an would be blasphemy. Muhammad himself declared: Bukhari:V9B88N174 Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Far removed from mercy are those who change the religion of Islam after me!Christianity has moved back to the teaching of its founder. Islam retains the teaching & practices of its founder. You find the latter to be preferable. I do not!!! Islam's doctrine demands world conquest. Jihad is the attempt to obey that doctrine.

The way you tie these together in a paragraph hints that you think they have something to do with each other. I'm no expert but didn't the witch hunts occur after the reformation? In that case what does your first sentence have to do with anything?

I have edited Jubela's messages, to shut off the "signature". This has restored most of the pages to normal width.The "signature links" can be found here.Jubela - If I again see that "signature" with all the links, or any further use of excessive and disruptive formatting, you will be confined to the "Practice Makes Perfect" forum until you mend your ways.Any responses to this message should go to the "Change in Moderation?" topic (link below).Adminnemooseus

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My signature line includes hyperlinks to several sources. The Qur`an is one of the best sources. If you have not read it, I urge you to visit:
Page Not FoundThere you will find a paralell Qur`an with three different translations side by side for easy comparison. I call your attention to Surahs 7, 8, 9 & 48.The same site has several different Hadith collections. I reccomend Bukhari's Hadith : Jihad (52) & Khumus(53). If you will read those resources, you will discover that I am not fabricating evidence; I am not lying, and I am not a bigot.You already have a computer and an internet connection. Unless you are paying by the minute, those resources will not cost anything extra. Is your time so valuable that you can not afford to seek truth?If you do not like origional sources, and are satisfied with research done by scholars & journalists, then you may prefer to read Jihad: the doctrine of Permanent War It is reasonably short, and inspite of being written in the British dialect with some 75cent words, easy to read. You can read it here:
http://www.bharatvani.org/books/jihad/If you are not a bigot with a closed mind, you will explore at least one of those references. I can guide you to truth, I can not force you to read it. I have done my part, now it is time for you to do yours.

Evidently you are unaware of the current practice among many Christian Cults to suppress Halloween or Harry Potter or Tolkin. LOL.

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Perhaps you are aware of some contempory witch hunts by Christian Churches. If so, please be so kind to inform us of them.I think of reformation as a continuing process, not a single event. In any case, the details of Christian teaching, practice & failings are not the urgent matter here.The urgent matter is the Babarian practices engaged in by Islam, motivated by their Qur`anic doctrines and what we should do to defend ourselves.

When are you emigrating to Nigeria?

[What I said about the Inquistion]I plumb forgot all about that! You asked for examples and I should have known you meant examples that took place um today? this year? this century? I'm not very smart you have to spell things like that out for me.I'll recommend one book to you: Korzybski's Science and Sanity. It has to my recollection no direct bearing on your issues but Korzybski offers a penetrating understanding into logic and emotion and how to optimize the functions of both. It appears most of us responding to this thread are having trouble taking your issues seriously partly because the information is being drowned out by emotional and formatting histrionics. Korzybski offers ways to balance reason and emotion. I've so way understated this.peace,
lfenpeace,
lfen