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Author Topic:   Does Creationisim preclude faith?
NosyNed
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Message 20 of 44 (56095)
09-17-2003 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Shimbabwe
09-17-2003 2:39 PM


"Yes, of course, my religion would be threatened, if not completely demolished."
How very odd! Since the majority of Christians don't have any such problem. In addition a goodly percentage of mainstream scientitists are religious. It is hard for me to see the connection.

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NosyNed
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Message 24 of 44 (56177)
09-17-2003 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Shimbabwe
09-17-2003 7:23 PM


Of course, Ned, you understand that Creationism, in its broadest sense, is a basic tenent of Christianity.
You lost the context of this discussion and should not be capitalizing "Creationism". There is nowhere here where that means anything other than a literal meaning of Genesis and the "creation" of living forms. It is NOT anywhere here used to refer to the simple belief that there is a sentient "creator" that acts through the natural laws we see and may be taken as "kicking off" the big bang or setting up conditions in which it would occur.
This second and, here, NEW use of the word "creationism" is, of course, a tenant of Christianity. But Creationism, as it has been used all along here is clearly NOT a tenant of Christianity.
It is careless or even disingenuous of you to mix the meanings, don't you think?
Now with that clarified, why should there be a problem?

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NosyNed
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Message 28 of 44 (56300)
09-18-2003 2:30 PM
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09-18-2003 1:22 PM


So do you consider all opponents to "accepted evolutionary view" creationists? I want to make sure we are all on the same page. Please clarify your position on this.
No I don't. But the majority of those who are real opponents are I think.
You could clarify your position yourself. What is progressive creationism, if that is the term you used?
It seems there are more different creationist postitions than there are creationists .

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