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Moral Argument for God

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purpledawn
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07-19-2005 3:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Yaro
07-19-2005 9:48 AM

Morality is Subjective
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1. If God exists, then God and God alone decides what is (truly) right and wrong. Without God there could be no ultimate standards of morality.
IMO there are no ultimate standards of morality pertaining to all that is considered creation.
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Even the OT had different standards for Hebrews and non-Hebrews as in Leviticus 25 concerning slavery.
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Also Deuteronomy 23:20
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You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.
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The Bible itself shows that the human application of "right and wrong" changes over time and is relative to the needs of the individual, culture, or group.
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I would think that any moral argument for God's existence would need to show that an ultimate standard of morality actually exists for all that God created.
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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France
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purpledawn
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07-20-2005 9:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 46 by 1.61803
07-20-2005 4:09 PM

Modern Man or Civilized Man?
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I was commenting on the fact that modern man is so far removed from nature in the sense that we do not understand what it means anymore to be a predator, or what it means to interact with nature rather than isolate ourselves from it in big homes and big cars all climate controlled.
IMO civilized man not just modern man is and has been like a cancer on this planet.
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Some of the problems in the OT were probably brought on by poor management of environmental resources.
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I think the problem started when civilized man deemed himself superior to the rest of creation.
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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France
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