Faith by Definition

so why doesn't he?

Irrelevant questions in the light of what I say. If you agree the divine can demonstrate his divinity to you then the how and test matter not. You wouldn't have to test the divine if the divine decided to reveal in a way that required no test to be performedI've said it before and shall say it again. The divine can rearrange the atoms in our brain so as we know. So as we know that no test is necessary

I'm sorry but that is both nonsense and also simply avoiding the question.How does someone test to see if it is divine or non-divine.Try to actually answer the question.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

To all and sundry you mean? Depends on which divine-model you apply I suppose.If it was the biblical God you were talking about then I would suggest there were very good reasons why he doesn't just turn up for all.

I think we may be talking alongside each other. Maybe a couple of points of common agreement would help??Do you agree that "knowing a particular thing" is simply an arrangement of atoms/cells/synapse etc?If so, do you agree that the divine can arrange these atoms/cells/synapses so that "we know"?Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Irrelevant and unimportant.The question is "How do you test whether something is of divine origin or non-divine."

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

??What I'm attempting to show is that your question belongs in Alice in Wonderland. Simply reverting to the question asked (as if it belongs anywhere but in Wonderland) doesn't help your case.Engage in the problems posed. Wrestle free from the Wonderland notion of having to test whether it is the divine or not. Whoever heard of such silliness!!

More nonsense and attempts to change the subject will not help.Saying that testing is silly does not help explain how to test the issue.The question is "How do you test whether something is of divine origin or non-divine."

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

True. The point is: why would one spend their time and energy engaging in a silly activity? Why would one engage in impossible things before breakfast."Test whether it was divine or not" Whoever heard of such a silly activity*!(AbE: in the sense of deciding whether there is a divine or no)Edited by iano, : No reason given.

So is your answer that it is impossible to test whether something is of divine or non-divine origin?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

er...no.My answer was that you cannot test for the divine (in terms of it existing or no). The divine must come to man - not man coming to the divine (by way of his man-sized tests)

So are you saying you can test to see if something is of divine or non-divine origin?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Now I can. After experiencing the divine I have a measure against which to examine subsequents. But that is different to testing for the existance of the divine in the first place. Which seemed to be your bent

Then present us with the specifics of the test to see if the source is divine or non-divine?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Present you with the specifics?Are you not being a little presumptuous in supposing that you would be in a position to understand the specifics?On what basis that notion?