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Author Topic:   Atheism isn't a belief?
ramoss
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Message 180 of 329 (235872)
08-23-2005 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by iano
08-23-2005 8:16 AM


Re: science and the meaning of life
Well, I know some people who were brought up very strongly religious Christians, and claimed to have been STRONGLY religious, and very devote.
That is the process they claimed to have gone through. You might claim they mustn't have been 'true christians' to begin with, they thought otherwise. You may rationalise their drifting away from the beliefs anyway you want.
Oh, and demons are just myth.

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ramoss
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Message 217 of 329 (236785)
08-25-2005 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by iano
08-25-2005 11:22 AM


Re: STOP PRESS: Iano is a filthy, manky, greasy sinner - but he ain't alone!!
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Which makes no sense. What is right and wrong cannot be determined by person, community, nation. Man isn't absolute, thus right and wrong will vary. Thus slavery was right once but not right now - which is cleary ridiculous. What is right and wrong is determined only by something which is absoute, eg: by God (i.h.e.). We, as consumers can chose which product, right or wrong, but the manufacturer of the product isn't the consumer, it's the manufacturer. And the point of Pauls piece was to show that everybody choses wrong sometimes (according to mans standard - a shadow, virtual one) and very many times (according to God standard - the one that actually matters).
I don't see how is an absolute at all. You might claim it is, but, if it is an absolute, why does our preception change, why do we have differing opinions on what is right or wrong?
Stem cell research. Right or wrong? WHy? People disagree. Therefore, it is not an absolute. What you claim is 'right and moral' is your opinion, and you invoke GOD for it. It's amazing how all these people who invoke god have their god having the exact same morals as they do.

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ramoss
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Message 237 of 329 (237213)
08-26-2005 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by iano
08-26-2005 5:48 AM


Re: STOP PRESS: Iano is a filthy, manky, greasy sinner - but he ain't alone!!
Well, since there doesn't seem to be an absolute right or wrong, then perhaps nothing defines it?
YOu have not demonstrated that there is an absolute right/wrong.

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