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lfen
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Message 11 of 109 (315861)
05-29-2006 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by igor_the_hero
05-28-2006 11:41 PM


Re: The Church
Jesus is the only perfect person.(Born of a virgin, remember?) So what would it mean if he had kids?

What does perfect mean? Did he have a y chromosome? Or was he just a single X type of male? What would the perfect genotype be?

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lfen
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Message 19 of 109 (316015)
05-29-2006 1:43 PM
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05-29-2006 10:08 AM


Re: The Church
a single x would produce a female.

Yes, so does that mean Jesus was a woman? Or do Christians believe that God supernaturally inserted a y chromosome during what I've heard Catholics call the immaculate conception?

I do agree that Christianity is a mixed up Greek (with some other pagan influences) adaption of Judaism.

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lfen
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Message 36 of 109 (316338)
05-30-2006 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Thugpreacha
05-30-2006 12:52 PM


Re: The Church
If He were not actually the unique Son of God but rather merely another in a long line of human teachers, would that affect the source and origin of your personal faith? I realize that you advocate following the message and behaving correctly and all, but do you actually think that you yourself are the source of this power and ability?

Although this appears a reasonable line of argument it puts you on a slippery slope. I mean if he were actually "the unique Son of God" then he could have just floated to earth on a cloud, or materialized in the Temple or something. Once you get into the "super" natural anything is possible and then everything is reasonable. This position can be mistaken for other than human wisdom but it's been a line of thought people have engaged in for a very long time.

In the East the notion is not simply human teacher but one who has awakened to his identity with the divine. The Christian "unique Son of God" is a pagan concept that has been added to Judaism. If there had been a teacher that is the basis for Paul's Christ then I suspect he had been trying to convey his awakening to people who simply hadn't the background to understand it and he dying at the outset of his teaching never had the time to develop.

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